ATL: HERMINE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7481 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:48 am

Here's the rainfall potential map as well. It's supposed to go extratropical and I'm not sure if, when spinning off the NC coast, this is going to be dumping a lot of rain inland or not.

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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7482 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:48 am

A large area of dry air is setting in over Mobile Bay.

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+24

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/SAT_ATL/atlanimwv.html

Here is a current Skew-T
http://www.twisterdata.com/data/tmp/scr ... .0000W.png

Looks like it will persist 18 hrs out especially in the 500 to 400 mb region.
http://www.twisterdata.com/data/tmp/scr ... .0000W.png

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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7483 Postby Emmett_Brown » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:48 am

TS winds appear to extend quite far to the SE per recon. I kind of wish they would fly a bit further east to measure the extent of the wind field. I guess we have bouys out there to fill in that data though.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7484 Postby StormHunter72 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:50 am

All of the weather is east of the "center" so I agree with you cone does not matter.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7485 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:55 am

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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7486 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:57 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:TS winds appear to extend quite far to the SE per recon. I kind of wish they would fly a bit further east to measure the extent of the wind field. I guess we have bouys out there to fill in that data though.

Agreed, t.s. wind field map, show a likelihood of 40 to 50 percent chance of t.s. winds along pinellas beaches. With more than 11 inches of rain fallen and another 4 or 5 exptected, it wouldn't have hurt them to include St. Pete and Clearwater with watches, not Tampa though. If we do get T.S.,winds I expect some trees to go down with the saturated grounds.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7487 Postby TropicalSailor » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:58 am

NDBC
Location: 26.007N 85.648W
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:50:00 UTC
Winds: S (180°) at 36.9 kt gusting to 48.6 kt
Significant Wave Height: 16.7 ft
Dominant Wave Period: 10 sec
Average Wave Period: 7.4 sec
Mean Wave Direction: SSW (210°)
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.59 in and falling rapidly
Air Temperature: 78.1 F
Dew Point: 75.7 F
Water Temperature: 85.1 F


Bouy SE of storm.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7488 Postby tigerz3030 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:59 am

So Hermine is still getting her act together and I think landfall is southern Taylor county. With that being said, cedar key and everything NE will get a lot of this storm because of being on the east side. Next 24-36 hours is going to be interesting. Be safe everyone and watch out for tornadoes
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7489 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:03 am

Alyono wrote:pressure again falling at about 1 mb per hour

We have have TS winds NW of the center. Significant structural improvement


If it did hit hurricane would you expect more of a tug North,or N.E. or no change at all? Certainl the t.s windfield would expand correct?
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7490 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:09 am

Pressure down to 994 mb per the latest VDM.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7491 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:11 am

Any chance that LLC gets pulled up under that convection. Lord I hope not. Then it would really take off.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7492 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:12 am

NDG wrote:Pressure down to 994 mb per the latest VDM.


Assuming winds followed wouldn't that be about 70 mph?
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7493 Postby JtSmarts » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:13 am

Conditions are not absolutely ideal but Hermine is now taking advantage. With about 20-24 more hours I definitely think a pressure of 980 or so is possible.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7494 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:16 am

caneman wrote:
NDG wrote:Pressure down to 994 mb per the latest VDM.


Assuming winds followed wouldn't that be about 70 mph?


Close to it but so far recon has not found any surface winds that strong yet, it takes a while for those winds to make it to the ground.
64 knots at flight level on the latest pass south of the coc.

100700 2508N 08606W 8395 01579 0058 +181 +155 217063 064 034 004 00
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Recon

#7495 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:21 am

Through 6:07am EDT:

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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7496 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:21 am

Getting stronger, that's for sure, 71 knots at flight level on the latest pass found, SE of the COC.

101600 2536N 08529W 8431 01543 0057 +177 +173 214068 071 047 015 00
101630 2537N 08527W 8399 01577 0060 +175 +173 212063 064 053 020 00
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7497 Postby JtSmarts » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:24 am

That looks to support 55kt at least and maybe 60 if they are feeling generous.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7498 Postby Alyono » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:24 am

looks like a 55 kt TS
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7499 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:27 am

Crapola...think the coast from Pinellas to citrus county will see 40-50 mph winds now with three to five feet of storm surge. As I thought last night, models shifted slightly east. Wouldn't be surprised with another slight shift east. This stronger trend is worrying. :eek:
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7500 Postby SouthDadeFish » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:27 am

The storm now appears to be steadily intensifying. Recon findings show the central pressure is decreasing and the convective pattern is beginning to improve. I think most importantly for the system is the increase in winds on the NW side of the circulation. This should allow moisture fluxes to increase on that side and convection to build. Based on the latest recon findings I would estimate the current intensity to be around 55 knots. It should be noted that strong winds exist well south and east from the center of the storm, so don't just focus on the center. However, the largest threats will be the storm surge and heavy rainfall.
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