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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#241 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:28 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#242 Postby abajan » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:29 pm

Alyono wrote:solid hurricane for Barbados at 138 hours


Hopefully not, but we sure could use a storm, just for the rain. The island hasn't had much of it for several months and some people haven't had running water for months.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#243 Postby blp » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:31 pm

More ridging on the Euro so far than the 00z. This one is coming West.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#244 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:32 pm

12Z ECMWF starts to spin up a low-level vort just east of the Southern Lesser Antilles at 144 hours, obviously much weaker than the GFS. Also has a monster 500mb ridge sitting north of the eastern Caribbean so doubt it could recurve in the Eastern Caribbean even if it were a stronger system

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#245 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:37 pm

I think it's likely that the disturbance will at least bring some squalls to the islands of the eastern Caribbean around next Wednesday. Beyond then is pure speculation. I'd give it at least a 40% shot at developing to a TD or TS in the 5-7 day time frame. Given the hostile environment across the Tropical Atlantic this season, I don't "buy" the GFS intensity solution. This one is definitely one to watch as far as a possible west Caribbean and/or Gulf threat in 10-12 days or a possible Bahamas-East U.S. Coast threat in the same time period.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#246 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:38 pm

168 hours getting more organized and just north of South America, big ridge to the north:

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#247 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:39 pm

The lows on the GFS are stronger while the low is weaker on the Euro and stretched out making for more ridging north of 39L

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#248 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:39 pm

Based on how hostile the basin has been this year I am leaning more towards the slower developing Euro solution. I think this becomes a player in the Caribbean in 7 to 8 days. I don't buy the strength on the GFS or the huge Upper Lows it showed on 12z.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#249 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:41 pm

also the pattern the Euro is now showing has an escape route but unfortunately the route would be through the Yucatan channel or western Cuba looking at the 500MB steering
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#250 Postby abajan » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:43 pm

Moving at the 20 to 25 mph expected, I doubt it will develop into anything more than a weak and disorganized storm by the time it reaches the Lesser Antilles, especially with how hostile the Atlantic has been this year. Of course, I'll still keep an eye on it.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#251 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:43 pm

192 hours, just off the north coast of SA...Big trough across the US Eastern Seaboard. Should start to pull up to the north 200 hours plus.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#252 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:43 pm

1004mb TS at 192 hours along South American coast

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#253 Postby abajan » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:49 pm

gatorcane wrote:1004mb TS at 192 hours along South American coast

http://s9.postimg.org/7hkn2hd7j/ecmwf_z ... _atl_9.png

I hope folks in the ABC islands (Aruba, Bonaire and Curaçao) are paying attention.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#254 Postby blp » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:50 pm

I expect this to lift and and head NW on the next images. It looks like the ridge is weakening.

Euro looks like a real solution. No dual bowling ball lows just a nice trough exiting the East Coast which is what you expect.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#255 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:51 pm

nah I don't think it will go north to much
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#256 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:52 pm

Slowing down and even stronger, down to 1001mb

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#257 Postby blp » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:54 pm

gatorcane wrote:Slowing down and even stronger, down to 1001mb

[]http://s22.postimg.org/lqxta7thd/ecmwf_z500a_Norm_atl_10.png[/img]


I think it should start to lift on the next image. Or maybe it is so far south the weakness will not be felt.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#258 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:56 pm

Long-range GFS ensembles are generally much further west than the GFS operational

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#259 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:58 pm

Euro run ends with a strengthening 987mb hurricane moving WNW, weakness overn the NW Caribbean/Gulf/Florida:

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#260 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:58 pm

blp wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Slowing down and even stronger, down to 1001mb

[]http://s22.postimg.org/lqxta7thd/ecmwf_z500a_Norm_atl_10.png[/img]


I think it should start to lift on the next image. Or maybe it is so far south the weakness will not be felt.


It lifts, and both the Euro and GFS have a hurricane so we may have a hurricane to contend with sometime next weekend and the steering on the Euro would be a big threat to the Northern GOM especially the eastern GOM

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