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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#241 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:17 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#242 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:19 am

Big change from last run.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#243 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:21 am

Escape route to the north.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#244 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:22 am

UKMET has a hurricane landfall near Caracas

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 72 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 72 : 12.8N 55.9W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 28.09.2016 72 12.8N 55.9W 1008 31
0000UTC 29.09.2016 84 13.2N 58.6W 1004 41
1200UTC 29.09.2016 96 12.7N 61.4W 1001 48
0000UTC 30.09.2016 108 12.3N 63.5W 991 58
1200UTC 30.09.2016 120 11.7N 64.5W 983 66
0000UTC 01.10.2016 132 11.7N 65.7W 985 61
1200UTC 01.10.2016 144 11.3N 66.5W 990 54
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#245 Postby SeGaBob » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:23 am

I knew this would happen. Expect further eastward shifts until it ends up east of Bermuda.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#246 Postby stormlover2013 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:24 am

Looks like a recurve
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#247 Postby psyclone » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:25 am

SeGaBob wrote:I knew this would happen. Expect further eastward shifts until it ends up east of Bermuda.

East of Bermuda would be a stretch but missing the US to the East would not.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#248 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:26 am

SeGaBob wrote:I knew this would happen. Expect further eastward shifts until it ends up east of Bermuda.


I see west of Bermuda possible but not east. I think you still lose that bet. :) I say this before the run is done though. :lol:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#249 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:26 am

stormlover2013 wrote:Looks like a recurve


But could it pull back west by a rebuilding ridge or a trough interaction?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#250 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:28 am

tolakram wrote:
SeGaBob wrote:I knew this would happen. Expect further eastward shifts until it ends up east of Bermuda.


I see west of Bermuda possible but not east. I think you still lose that bet. :) I say this before the run is done though. :lol:

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That could lead to a human disaster of epic proportions in Haiti if that run holds...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#251 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:28 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#252 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:28 am

SeGaBob wrote:I knew this would happen. Expect further eastward shifts until it ends up east of Bermuda.


It cannot recurve east of Bermuda. Any turn will happen at least 500 miles west of Bermuda
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#253 Postby ThetaE » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:29 am

Doesn't look like it's going to recurve to me. Could be a Hazel-esque track coming up.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#254 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:30 am

ThetaE wrote:Doesn't look like it's going to recurve to me. Could be a Hazel-esque track coming up.


Except now we are in the range where the GFS errors are large and getting larger. From this point out it's entertainment in my opinion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#255 Postby p1nheadlarry » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:32 am

ThetaE wrote:Doesn't look like it's going to recurve to me. Could be a Hazel-esque track coming up.


Woah there now, we don't need that
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#256 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:32 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#257 Postby AJC3 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:32 am

Alyono wrote:
SeGaBob wrote:I knew this would happen. Expect further eastward shifts until it ends up east of Bermuda.


It cannot recurve east of Bermuda. Any turn will happen at least 500 miles west of Bermuda


I'm pretty sure that what he's been meaning to say all along is that once it reaches the latitude of Bermuda (~32.3N), that the COC will pass east of the island.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#258 Postby Kazmit » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:33 am

If the recurve solution is true, I expect an Emily '87-type track out of this.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#259 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:35 am

tolakram wrote:Image


The trough in the west could be the defining feature...if it comes in early, this is Hazel 2.0...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#260 Postby ThetaE » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:38 am

tolakram wrote:
ThetaE wrote:Doesn't look like it's going to recurve to me. Could be a Hazel-esque track coming up.


Except now we are in the range where the GFS errors are large and getting larger. From this point out it's entertainment in my opinion.


For me, the cutoff low is still entertainment :lol:. I'm waiting for another few GFS runs and the 12z ECMWF to be convinced about it.
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