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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#821 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:06 pm

If a trough gets there early it will linger and dig, but if the storm is way down in the Caribbean a seasonal September trough could miss.
Climo favors digging troughs with slow moving Caribbean storms early October so if I were a betting man..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#822 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:07 pm

Wow, what a complex setup this is. Lots of variables and very few constants
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#823 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:23 pm

Looks like 9 out of the 20 Canadian ensembles that develop this hit Florida. One goes into the Gulf but that is the outlier. Rest go east of Florida into the Bahamas:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#824 Postby alienstorm » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:27 pm

GEPS Members at 12z place it over Florida

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... 0&ypos=200
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#825 Postby Medtronic15 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:32 pm

HWRF 12z (147 kt) Enjoy!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#826 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:51 pm

gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:This is just to close for comfort for Florida. Whatever the case 12z further west


Agreed WAY too close especially looking at 216 to 240 hours out...wouldn't take much more of a ridge or a few more west shifts to put it right into Florida. let's see what the ECM ensembles show.


the unfriendly thumb ridge that was mentioned this morning from our friend in melbourne...beware the thumb ridge, beware the COL..these things tend to pop up and cause chaos to the forecast...looking beyond 5 days is very dangerous and entertainment purposes only with both track and especially intensity
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#827 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:03 pm

Latest guidance with GFS Ensembles well to the east of Florida:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#828 Postby cajungal » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:08 pm

Looking a lot better for the Gulf coast. But Florida and East Coast still need to watch carefully.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#829 Postby emeraldislenc » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:10 pm

any chance it could take a path like Hazel in 1954?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#830 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:10 pm

gatorcane wrote:Latest guidance with GFS Ensembles well to the east of Florida:

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The projected track, at least by the GFS, reminds me of Hurricane Hazel of 1954.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#831 Postby mcheer23 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:13 pm

cajungal wrote:Looking a lot better for the Gulf coast. But Florida and East Coast still need to watch carefully.


Not really, the models right now are about as accurate as flipping a coin.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#832 Postby blp » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:14 pm

What a difference 48hrs makes. This is why we need to keep an eye on it. Full windshield wipers in effect.

12z Saturday:
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12z Yesterday:
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12z Today:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#833 Postby xcool22 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:15 pm

cajungal wrote:Looking a lot better for the Gulf coast. But Florida and East Coast still need to watch carefully.

From la to fl need to watch this
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#834 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:26 pm

Out to day 8 on the Euro ensembles and the OP is definitely on the right side of the guidance envelope.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#835 Postby p1nheadlarry » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:30 pm

gatorcane wrote:Latest guidance with GFS Ensembles well to the east of Florida:

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That looks like a hybrid between Hazel (1954) and the 1938 LI Express
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#836 Postby drezee » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:31 pm

I do not like the SW sag of the pressure field. Euro corrects towardent that pressure field in the past. I would expect another SW shift for 0z.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#837 Postby toad strangler » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:31 pm

Lots of NE folk think this looks like a Sandy 2 set up.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#838 Postby drezee » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:31 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:Out to day 8 on the Euro ensembles and the OP is definitely on the right side of the guidance envelope.

Link??
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#839 Postby OntarioEggplant » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:35 pm

Euro ensembles are Yucatan to Western Cuba. Cutoff low is quick to leave.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#840 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:36 pm

Looks like the 12Z ECMWF ensemble mean has shifted west?!? 240 hour image below:

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