Invest 90L.... Model Map Inside... Central FLorida??

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Invest 90L.... Model Map Inside... Central FLorida??

#1 Postby chadtm80 » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:43 pm

Where oh Where are you going 90L?? Model Map Below :darrow:

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PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WREL.COM IS STORM2K'S OFFICIAL MODEL MAP SITE... THE MAP ABOVE IS CURRENT AS OF NOW, BUT WILL NOT BE UPDATED.. 90L MAP WILL BE ADDED TO WREL AND THAT IS WHERE YOU SHOULD GO FOR ALL UPDATES... :rarrow: http://www.wrel.com/modelmap.htm STORM2K MAP WILL BE TAKEN DOWN AS SOON AS WREL IS UPDATED.....


Sure looks pretty ragid.. Whats everyone think about her future??

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#2 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:45 pm

Chad the name that is in the map in the caribbean should say Larry :) .
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#3 Postby chadtm80 » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:48 pm

Yep... LOL dang im tired... Going to update it.. LOL
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#4 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:49 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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#5 Postby southerngale » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:50 pm

N/P chad ;) hehe
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#6 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:51 pm

Hey chad put 90L just in case it not forms into Larry.
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#7 Postby chadtm80 » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:52 pm

Ya, Thats what I did... Not looking promising
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#8 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:53 pm

OK good chad. :)
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#9 Postby wx247 » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:54 pm

Interesting tracks but it doesn't look healthy right now. I guess we shall see what the future holds.
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#10 Postby lilbump3000 » Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:56 pm

Looking at that model map, everybody along the gulf coast should watch out.


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#12 Postby Derecho » Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:37 pm

lilbump3000 wrote:Looking at that model map, everybody along the gulf coast should watch out.



Well, you need to know what you're looking at for that map.

LBAR and A98E are so bad they basically can be ignored at all times.

So it's BAMD and BAMM. (And as of now, NO Globals show 90L forming a tropical system, so that's all you've got.)

When Isabel was a Cat 4-5, BAMM was still showing it heading west, when every other model had it curving north into Florida.

I was advising people that since Isabel was a deep, Cat 4+ storm, the BAMM (medium-layer) forecast was worthless. And of course it was.

The OPPOSITE is true for 90L right now.

The BAMM is valid for very weak systems, and badly sheared systems. 90L is weak, so the BAMM track right now is more valid than the BAMD track.

Of course, the BAMM track is far less popular than the BAMD track :-).

The BAMD track would only be valid if 90L was a hurricane RIGHT NOW, which it is not.

And when the BAMD and BAMM are far apart (and you can't get any further apart than the BAMD and BAMM tracks for 90L right now) that's an indication of MASSIVE shear.


The Global models show enormous shear over the North Gulf next week. They also show a lot of surface ridging.

So...

1) 90L is likely to keep moving W or NW because it won't develop in time to be picked up by the weekend East Coast trough

2) If somehow it moved N it would be MASSIVELY sheared by unsurvivable 50+ knots shear

3) It's likely to get tangled up over the Yucatan thus causing trouble for development at all

4) There's basically no threat to Florida from 90L at the moment.
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#13 Postby wxman57 » Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:39 pm

lilbump3000 wrote:Looking at that model map, everybody along the gulf coast should watch out.



No, not everybody. There's little chance of it coming NW to TX/LA/MS/AL. Very strong WSW-W winds at the base of a deep trof will definitely prevent that. Most of this disturbance will go to Florida. Is say "most" because some low-level energy/moisture may track W-WSW along the cold front as the BAMM is indicating. But nothing is going to penetrate the front in the north-central Gulf. Those folks are safe. Florida will get dumped on some more, though.
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#14 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Sep 27, 2003 6:47 pm

There have been times that the current wind shear values decrease, rather than stay the same or increase or vice versa. There is plenty of reason to watch this area of convection for tropical development.
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#15 Postby dixiebreeze » Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:46 pm

Well, Derecho, if LBar WAS a model with merit, it takes Larry right across my front yard. Sooo..... it's good to know I should pay no attention to LBar.
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Invest 90L Map Up at WREL

#16 Postby Scott_inVA » Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:23 am

Invest 90L Map Up at WREL

First, thanks to Chad for getting a 90 Map up here. Being on the EC, I will run maps on ATL storms until they clear the region. Thanks again. :wink:

I've been slow on 90 b/c yesterday we received another 1"+ RA here and had our second flash flood event since the massive Isabel floods. :o . This is getting damn old around here.

Globals are having a tough time with this as "57" noted...massive W-WSW shear through 500-300mb. The Canadian is trying the Derecho idea... taking a piece into the BOC later this week and bobbing off the NE MX
coast. That may well be viable. The GFS puts a Low over the Bahamas at D4 but is scooted off to the NE.

OT: 540 makes it down from IN into KY-VA and over NJ at 126hrs. Guess I need to sweep the chimney today. :roll:

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