ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4861 Postby Vdogg » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:15 pm

gatorcane wrote:Expanding in size...


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Looks like it wobbled a tad west at the end. It'll be amazing if this pulls the hat trick, misses Jamaica, barely misses Haiti, and if it takes an eastward jog, misses Cuba too.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4862 Postby psyclone » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:15 pm

Raebie wrote:
psyclone wrote:It's also worth remembering that things looked very bad for Jamaica for quite sometime and they now appear to be doing much better (at least the core is going to miss them and hurricane warnings were downgraded to TS warnings). Just because things look bad or much worse for location ________ doesn't mean they can't improve again...at least for the states where impacts are still a ways out.


Yeah but Jamaica is a tich smaller than CONUS.


You're missing the point. there is still time for things to improve.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4863 Postby TJRE » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:17 pm

HD SAT LOOP alternative

large file
http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/goescolor/goe ... _conus.mp4

from main page
http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/

0200 utc
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4864 Postby SeGaBob » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:19 pm

It doesn't appear to be expanding in size to me...if anything shrinking. Am I missing something?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4865 Postby Raebie » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:20 pm

psyclone wrote:
Raebie wrote:
psyclone wrote:It's also worth remembering that things looked very bad for Jamaica for quite sometime and they now appear to be doing much better (at least the core is going to miss them and hurricane warnings were downgraded to TS warnings). Just because things look bad or much worse for location ________ doesn't mean they can't improve again...at least for the states where impacts are still a ways out.


Yeah but Jamaica is a tich smaller than CONUS.


You're missing the point. there is still time for things to improve.


No, I get your point. I'm just not as hopeful as I was 2 days ago.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4866 Postby yzerfan » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:20 pm

While it might be early to get the shutters on, I'd definitely top off the gas in any cars and also fill up the lawn mower can. Florida gets almost all of its gasoline in by fuel barge, and this is the kind of storm that can disrupt the supply chains for a time.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4867 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:23 pm

i hope store ready because getting store bit by supprise
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4868 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:26 pm

SeGaBob wrote:It doesn't appear to be expanding in size to me...if anything shrinking. Am I missing something?


Yes, the core is expanding. Not talking about the debris clouds fanning out.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4869 Postby JaxGator » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:27 pm

SeGaBob wrote:It doesn't appear to be expanding in size to me...if anything shrinking. Am I missing something?


The CDO has been and still is expanding in size.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4870 Postby Sanibel » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:30 pm

Sud and Grand Anse Departments on Tiburon Peninsula, Haiti should get clipped by Matthew according to NHC track.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4871 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:31 pm



Good video. He suggests this storm will get close enough to the SE US to cause problems. He also emphasized the center doesn't have to make landfall to get TS or even hurricane winds as the wind field will likely expand especially if the storm gets stronger. The other thing is that you cannot rule out the track shifting west a little more which could bring the center up into South Florida.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4872 Postby sponger » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:31 pm

The wind field could be massive on its approach to Florida due to land interaction. Or it could shoot the gap and come in as a strengthening four or five. Both are bad options. The panic with Floyd was ridiculous. For anyone who has not gone through it, consider only evacuating if ordered. No food, no gas no hotels for hundreds of miles is quite bad. Local shelters are a far better alternative if you don't have a well built house. Just my 2 cents from someone who has been there.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4873 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:32 pm

For those asking in SE Florida, shutter time would be tomorrow into early Wednesday. Later Wednesday the weather will begin to deteriorate.

Keep tabs on your local news media. If they tell you to shutter up, then shutter up.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4874 Postby LCfromFL » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:32 pm

Here is the link to the official briefing from the Jacksonville (FL) NWS office. It's a bit old (from 5:48 pm today) because I just thought about checking to see if they had one out yet. I'll post an update again in the morning.

http://www.weather.gov/media/jax/briefings/nws-jax-briefing.pdf
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4875 Postby SunnyThoughts » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:34 pm

sponger wrote:The wind field could be massive on its approach to Florida due to land interaction. Or it could shoot the gap and come in as a strengthening four or five. Both are bad options. The panic with Floyd was ridiculous. For anyone who has not gone through it, consider only evacuating if ordered. No food, no gas no hotels for hundreds of miles is quite bad. Local shelters are a far better alternative if you don't have a well built house. Just my 2 cents from someone who has been there.


Agreed, if you do feel you need to evacuate farther inland to a hotel...make the reservation NOW...you can always cancel it, usually without penalty within 24 hours of arrival.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4876 Postby tgenius » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:36 pm

I'm very curious of the watches go up for SFL tonight or at 5am tomorrow morning, will be an interesting disco at 11pm for sure.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4877 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:38 pm

tgenius wrote:I'm very curious of the watches go up for SFL tonight or at 5am tomorrow morning, will be an interesting disco at 11pm for sure.


And it's Stewart's turn to write :D
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4878 Postby GeneratorPower » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:38 pm

AdamFirst wrote:For those asking in SE Florida, shutter time would be tomorrow into early Wednesday. Later Wednesday the weather will begin to deteriorate.

Keep tabs on your local news media. If they tell you to shutter up, then shutter up.


Sorry, I will not be trusting my local clueless sensationalist media for this decision. I recommend that people use the hurricane watch as an indicator. That should give enough time to put up shutters.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4879 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:38 pm

tgenius wrote:I'm very curious of the watches go up for SFL tonight or at 5am tomorrow morning, will be an interesting disco at 11pm for sure.


We will find out soon enough. I'm going to say they'll go up at 11 - a Hurricane Watch, from Florida City to Flagler Beach. (that is my guess, that is not for certain yet)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4880 Postby sponger » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:41 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:
sponger wrote:The wind field could be massive on its approach to Florida due to land interaction. Or it could shoot the gap and come in as a strengthening four or five. Both are bad options. The panic with Floyd was ridiculous. For anyone who has not gone through it, consider only evacuating if ordered. No food, no gas no hotels for hundreds of miles is quite bad. Local shelters are a far better alternative if you don't have a well built house. Just my 2 cents from someone who has been there.


Agreed, if you do feel you need to evacuate farther inland to a hotel...make the reservation NOW...you can always cancel it, usually without penalty within 24 hours of arrival.


Yep, I have a sleep Inn in mind 30 miles off the coast in the unlikely event i ever need it. Commercial grade structure 30 miles from the ocean with a lot of restaurants near by. Takes cancellations up until 6 the same day. It close to me though on back roads. I would not recommend trying to get out of state unless you are leaving tomorrow or tomorrow night. I have a chance of seeing maximum Cat 2-3 winds if track comes onshore and am staying put. Newer construction, generator, garage brace, and 5/8 plywood with heavy duty anchors. I am not too worried.
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