ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8621 Postby OrlandoKnight » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:28 pm

So I realize everyone has to make best decision for themselves based on information available but curious for opinions...

We live in Orlando. House is a pretty solid block house, but it's an old neighborhood with a ton of massive, old/dead oaks. We get branches down around here with every summer storm. We have the option to head out to our in laws in Winter Garden. Not a massive change in location, but it is about 30 minutes west. Think we should be heading their way to ride out the storm just to be safe? I should add that we have a 6 month old, so obviously would have to pack up a ton of crap to be prepared for multiple days away with her. Thoughts? :?:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8622 Postby dhweather » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:29 pm

124mph on KAMX - Miami doppler , and that's 138 miles out from the radar site.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8623 Postby 1900hurricane » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:29 pm

As of the moment, the outer eyewall has a radius of 38 miles/diameter of 76 miles. With an outer eyewall that large, I'd guess this is probably a 24 hour or so eyewall replacement if uninterrupted. The moat extends completely around the inner eyewall on 1.3* tilt now as well, so this eyewall replacement is going forward.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8624 Postby Dave C » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:32 pm

Also see chunk out of northern CDO but radar presentation, especially outer eyewall looks pretty solid.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8625 Postby meriland23 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:33 pm

So if this is a current eyewall replacement cycle that will take almost a day, does that mean it can't strengthen while doing so?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8626 Postby Sanibel » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:33 pm

Dave C wrote:Also see chunk out of northern CDO but radar presentation, especially outer eyewall looks pretty solid.



Lower altitude cloud tops on radar.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8627 Postby bg1 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:33 pm

1900hurricane wrote:As of the moment, the outer eyewall has a radius of 38 miles/diameter of 76 miles. With an outer eyewall that large, I'd guess this is probably a 24 hour or so eyewall replacement if uninterrupted. The moat extends completely around the inner eyewall on 1.3* tilt now as well, so this eyewall replacement is going forward.


How much do you think it will weaken, if at all?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8628 Postby tolakram » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:33 pm

Moat starting to appear on visible.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8629 Postby Sanibel » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:33 pm

meriland23 wrote:So if this is a current eyewall replacement cycle that will take almost a day, does that mean it can't strengthen while doing so?



More likely maintain I would guess.
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#8630 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:34 pm

Feeling better with the trends this afternoon as for what to expect in NE Palm Beach County, minimal hurricane force winds seems to be the worst ATM.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8631 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:34 pm

the edge of the outer eyewall is just starting to get to grand bahama..

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=spgf1 winds picking up quickly.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8632 Postby Alyono » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:35 pm

very surprising to see these latest developments with the secondary eyewall
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8633 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:35 pm

tolakram wrote:Moat starting to appear on visible.

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What does that mean?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8634 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:37 pm

Northern portion of the new eyewall becoming distinct on VIS

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8635 Postby Dee Bee » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:37 pm

Just checking in here from Vero Beach, FL. We are located about 12-15 miles SW inland from the island. Our house is shuttered; we will deploy inside reinforcement to the garage door as soon as the day progresses. Our supplies are stocked, and we have a whole-house generator. I'm very anxious about the reality of Cat 4 hurricane force winds, no matter how prepared we are. This I my fourth hurricane since moving to FL in 2000, although I lived in southern Palm Beach County before moving to Vero Beach in 2013. Wilma was dangerous, but I understand that Matthew can be devastating. I'll check in again on S2K as communications allow. Please keep everyone along the east central FL coast in positive energy. I am open to miracles!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8636 Postby swampgator92 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:39 pm

very surprising to see these latest developments with the secondary eyewall


What do you think the winds are in the secondary eyewall?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8637 Postby Nederlander » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:39 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
tolakram wrote:Moat starting to appear on visible.

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What does that mean?


The moat is the area between the two eyewalls.. It is essentially the new eye and eventually the inner eyewall will dissipate..
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8638 Postby Portastorm » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:39 pm

Dee Bee wrote:Just checking in here from Vero Beach, FL. We are located about 12-15 miles SW inland from the island. Our house is shuttered; we will deploy inside reinforcement to the garage door as soon as the day progresses. Our supplies are stocked, and we have a whole-house generator. I'm very anxious about the reality of Cat 4 hurricane force winds, no matter how prepared we are. This I my fourth hurricane since moving to FL in 2000, although I lived in southern Palm Beach County before moving to Vero Beach in 2013. Wilma was dangerous, but I understand that Matthew can be devastating. I'll check in again on S2K as communications allow. Please keep everyone along the east central FL coast in positive energy. I am open to miracles!


Props to you for being so well prepared! We wish all the positive energy, good karma, and miracles your way (and to your fellow Floridians)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8639 Postby KC7NEC » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:40 pm

OrlandoKnight wrote:So I realize everyone has to make best decision for themselves based on information available but curious for opinions...

We live in Orlando. House is a pretty solid block house, but it's an old neighborhood with a ton of massive, old/dead oaks. We get branches down around here with every summer storm. We have the option to head out to our in laws in Winter Garden. Not a massive change in location, but it is about 30 minutes west. Think we should be heading their way to ride out the storm just to be safe? I should add that we have a 6 month old, so obviously would have to pack up a ton of crap to be prepared for multiple days away with her. Thoughts? :?:


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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8640 Postby Hammy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:40 pm

There's been a now steady NNW motion for the last several hours and it looks like this is going to go right over the middle of Abaco, and I'm starting to feel confident this will miss the state to the east by about 70-80 miles, though everybody in it's forecast path should continue to operate under the assumption of landfall.
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