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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10481 Postby FixySLN » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:56 pm

terstorm1012 wrote:i have a question: if the rains in NC and VA are going to be frontal influenced, why won't the front shunt Matthew ENE and out to sea? How will the center end up going south? The mechanics of that part I'm a little confused on.


I've been saying for 2 days I didn't buy that loop. Nicole isn't going to let it happen in my OPINION. If that NW path hold true, Matthew will be far to weak to make it back around. As for going out to sea, Miss Nicole is sitting there waiting to mess with Matthew when that turn finally comes. As Nicole moves north she's going to gobble up the warm air she runs into to use as fuel, leaving Matthew with scraps. Also, mandatory statement saying I'm not a met and am just forming an opinion based on facts presented and the little understanding I have regarding weather in general.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10482 Postby Raebie » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:59 pm

I have to say, it's a little disappointing that now that the hurricane is past Florida, the forum has essentially died. I have a daughter in Wilmington who is not out of the woods yet.

Does anyone have a good recommendation for another site to get up to the minute and reliable updates from? I have the NHC but I'm looking for something more interactive.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10483 Postby dukeblue219 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:01 pm

Raebie wrote:I have to say, it's a little disappointing that now that the hurricane is past Florida, the forum has essentially died. I have a daughter in Wilmington who is not out of the woods yet.

Does anyone have a good recommendation for another site to get up to the minute and reliable updates from? I have the NHC but I'm looking for something more interactive.


What kind of updates? Local conditions? Lookup the local tv affiliates in those areas and they probably have live streams. Tropical updates? Use one of the live recon sites like tropicalatlantic.com and watch the data come in.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10484 Postby TropicalSailor » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:05 pm

Raebie wrote:I have to say, it's a little disappointing that now that the hurricane is past Florida, the forum has essentially died. I have a daughter in Wilmington who is not out of the woods yet.

Does anyone have a good recommendation for another site to get up to the minute and reliable updates from? I have the NHC but I'm looking for something more interactive.



Still here!!! Everyone is just transitioning from work to home ;)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10485 Postby ALhurricane » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:05 pm

The surge from Savannah to Charleston is likely to be major and what this hurricane is remembered for. I hope everybody is out of those areas.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10486 Postby Andrew92 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:07 pm

I agree that Matthew will probably go east with the eyewall missing Georgia. However, I am not buying the eyewall missing South Carolina just yet. I know the storm is moving a bit slower than forecast, but several models, including the GFS, still take Matthew either onshore or very close. Even the Euro seems to show that while not a landfall, strong winds should make it onshore, if not the eyewall. And the current seeming northeast motion could easily just be another wobble. Matthew has only gone 0.1 degrees east in the past three hours, versus 0.5 degrees north. It could still just as easily make a slight west wobble too.

Plus, I think the models have trended north, either closer to the coast or more so onshore, even if just briefly. The trend is your friend, from what I understand. At least most of the time anyway!

What happened in Florida was exactly what I feared, without a landfall. Lots of coastal flooding and very strong, damaging winds on an extended portion of the coast. It does appear that it could have been worse overall, though. I am very glad our Florida members here are safe!

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10487 Postby Kazmit » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:10 pm

Any estimates for total damage costs and deaths as a result of Matthew? Already at about $1 billion and 852 deaths.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10488 Postby wxmann_91 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:16 pm

Blown Away wrote:Was it an amazing once in a lifetime track or was their some factor that keeps Matt from landfall? Just amazed how close Matt has hugged the coast from Palm Beach to OBX...


The former. We got really lucky with this one... a track you simply could not make up.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10489 Postby kat61 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:26 pm

Humm. I come here to the 'think tank' to get the real deal on the science.. Not the stuff you can find on social media.. I don't need hype , or drama, I come here for the science of getting a heads up on what I can do to prepare and/or prevent harm to my myself, my property. Most important how to help and inform my family and friends..
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10490 Postby abajan » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:30 pm

NDG wrote:A little old but just in case it was not posted.

https://twitter.com/wjxt4/status/784468795322732545

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10491 Postby T-man » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:31 pm

ALhurricane wrote:The surge from Savannah to Charleston is likely to be major and what this hurricane is remembered for. I hope everybody is out of those areas.

I have a cousin who lives in the Charleston area, everyone in their neighborhood is staying put. I'm not sure how far from the ocean they are... I do recall her saying they lived just on the outside of the evac area. I'm hoping they don't receive a direct hit from a landfalling hurricane, but it does look like the storm will not recurve enough to miss that area in my amateur opinion.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10492 Postby La Sirena » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:31 pm

ALhurricane wrote:The surge from Savannah to Charleston is likely to be major and what this hurricane is remembered for. I hope everybody is out of those areas.

They aren't....at least 24 remained on Tybee and 100 on Daufuskie.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10493 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:33 pm

underthwx wrote:In terms of height of a storm surge, does a cyclone moving parallel to a coastline, result in a higher storm surge?, versus a cyclone moving directly at a coastline.


No, a storm moving parallel to the coast generally produces a lower surge than a direct, head-on impact. It does depend on the shape of the coastline, however. Take the New Orleans, for example. In that case, the worst storm surge would be from a hurricane approaching from the ESE-SE. It would pile up the water between the mouth of the Mississippi & the Mississippi coast and funnel it into Lake Pontchartrain, increasing the surge into New Orleans.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10494 Postby TropicalSailor » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:35 pm

La Sirena wrote:
ALhurricane wrote:The surge from Savannah to Charleston is likely to be major and what this hurricane is remembered for. I hope everybody is out of those areas.

They aren't....at least 24 remained on Tybee and 100 on Daufuskie.


I have some friends in the area on a sailboat that left there marina in Charleston to head up river a bit to ride the storm at anchor. They'll be just fine but there are people in the area.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10495 Postby Raebie » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:36 pm

La Sirena wrote:
ALhurricane wrote:The surge from Savannah to Charleston is likely to be major and what this hurricane is remembered for. I hope everybody is out of those areas.

They aren't....at least 24 remained on Tybee and 100 on Daufuskie.


I heard 1000 on Hilton Head.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10496 Postby NFLnut » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:37 pm

Raebie wrote:I have to say, it's a little disappointing that now that the hurricane is past Florida, the forum has essentially died. I have a daughter in Wilmington who is not out of the woods yet.

Does anyone have a good recommendation for another site to get up to the minute and reliable updates from? I have the NHC but I'm looking for something more interactive.



Don't hate us. After a week of knowing a potential Cat 5/4 was headed straight toward us and prepping and obsessing over every 0800/1100/1400/1700/2000/2300 NHC plot and model run, we're 'caned out and exhausted and now having to clean up the mess and then get back to the work we missed the last two days. Most of us did not sleep much last night and some of us barely had time for a short nap that doesn't in any equate to a full night. Plus, the stress of what is potentially happening outside our homes and businesses for 16 hours. It's not that we don't care ..
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10497 Postby underthwx » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:38 pm

wxman57 wrote:
underthwx wrote:In terms of height of a storm surge, does a cyclone moving parallel to a coastline, result in a higher storm surge?, versus a cyclone moving directly at a coastline.


No, a storm moving parallel to the coast generally produces a lower surge than a direct, head-on impact. It does depend on the shape of the coastline, however. Take the New Orleans, for example. In that case, the worst storm surge would be from a hurricane approaching from the ESE-SE. It would pile up the water between the mouth of the Mississippi & the Mississippi coast and funnel it into Lake Pontchartrain, increasing the surge into New Orleans.


Thankyou!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10498 Postby Michele B » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:39 pm

psyclone wrote:That sign language guy for SC Gov Haley needs a tv show. An SNL gig, comedy central, anything. I am just delighted by his expressions...Count me as a huge fan.


The tall guy? With the glasses?

Yeah, he reminds me of the "imposter" that got on stage with Obama a year or so ago? Some event, remember?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10499 Postby Michele B » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:40 pm

Blown Away wrote:Was it an amazing once in a lifetime track or was their some factor that keeps Matt from landfall? Just amazed how close Matt has hugged the coast from Palm Beach to OBX...


His whole history, an aversion to land. It's why he 's managed to maintain strength so long....very strange.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#10500 Postby HurricaneBelle » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:40 pm

abajan wrote:Pretty gripping clip. Incidentally, for the benefit of those who're wondering how to view embedded Twitter videos in full-screen mode, if you're using Chrome on a PC, do the following:


Or simpler yet, just right-click on the tweet itself, select "copy link" or "copy link location" depending on what browser you're using and then paste that into a new browser tab. It will open up the tweet itself and there's always an option in the video to go full-screen.
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