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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#801 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:57 pm

Meh

on the meteogram it does have temperatures going from the 70s to 30s at day 10 at DFW. But the rest of the run is a disaster and warm.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#802 Postby ronyan » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:00 pm

Curious to see the NWS discussions this afternoon.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#803 Postby Rgv20 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:07 pm

A forecast low of 38 tonight with light rain for my area... :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#804 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:09 pm

GFS and euro went from southwest ridge to southeast ridge :lol: the second one is more conducive to producing big winter storms and cold not sliding east.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#805 Postby gatorcane » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:10 pm

Brent wrote:Meh

on the meteogram it does have temperatures going from the 70s to 30s at day 10 at DFW. But the rest of the run is a disaster and warm.

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... _us_11.png


So much cold up across the Northern US and Southern Canada border area but just when it tries to make the move south it either gets modified or shunted east. Yeah frustrating for sure for you folks in Texas...here in South Florida we can't buy a cool down, though perhaps we'll see something Friday and Saturday...nothing like the models showed a week ago though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#806 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:14 pm

12Z GFS is a good bit warmer (not as freezing cold) as the 06Z. The 12Z EC has Houston down to 60 on Wednesday with a high in the mid 70s on Thursday. Coldest morning on the 12Z EC is upper 40s across Houston on the 18th. The EC is my friend!

I would be VERY cautious about believing any model run beyond the next 2-3 days.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#807 Postby Rgv20 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:16 pm

Ntxw wrote:GFS and euro went from southwest ridge to southeast ridge :lol: the second one is more conducive to producing big winter storms and cold not sliding east.


12zGFS Control Ensemble has 90% of Texas seeing snow by day 16...Going to be interesting what the 12zECMWF Control Run has on day 10 to 15 I'm guessing it will has some cold weather for Texas. Strong signals in the computer models that we should see a second stronger Arctic front in the next 8 to 12 days?? Going to be an interesting weeks coming up! :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#808 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:19 pm

I agree with wxman57, its something different almost every run. The cold truth is mass of frigid anomalies just uo north, dip slightly south and weather is vastly different. 3-5 days is about as good as they can forecast.

We'll be model watching up until Christmas at this rate. On year ago this place had crickets.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#809 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:36 pm

Ntxw wrote:I agree with wxman57, its something different almost every run. The cold truth is mass of frigid anomalies just uo north, dip slightly south and weather is vastly different. 3-5 days is about as good as they can forecast.

We'll be model watching up until Christmas at this rate. On year ago this place had crickets.


I agree. We kid with the young Jedi known as Wxman 57, but we have seen flippity floppities in models for years now...I mean back and forth. 3-5 days is about as good as it gets in the model world. Just be patient. As Ntxw and Srain preach..the trend is your friend.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#810 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:44 pm

Tireman4 wrote:...we have seen flippity floppities in models for years now


Actually, we're seeing flippity floppities in the models about every six hours right now! :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#811 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:46 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Terrell reported snow last hour and radar shows a band south of I-20 moving east.

I was wondering if my radar was just joshing me or was there really snow making it to the surface in the DFW area. :cold: :froze:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#812 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:47 pm



I normally only follow the tropics on here but I'm supposed to drive from South Florida to NW Tennessee on Christmas Eve...Looks like I'll be paying attention to the model runs for the next 15 days. May have to adjust my travel timeline depending on the conditions.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#813 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:48 pm

Ntxw wrote:On year ago this place had crickets.


Indeed, a year ago on December 8, the Texas Winter 2015-16 thread stood at only 11 pages (as compared to 41 so far this year).
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#814 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:48 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:


I normally only follow the tropics on here but I'm supposed to drive from South Florida to NW Tennessee on Christmas Eve...Looks like I'll be paying attention to the model runs for the next 15 days. May have to adjust my travel timeline depending on the conditions.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#815 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:51 pm

Tireman4 wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:


I normally only follow the tropics on here but I'm supposed to drive from South Florida to NW Tennessee on Christmas Eve...Looks like I'll be paying attention to the model runs for the next 15 days. May have to adjust my travel timeline depending on the conditions.

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:roflmao: Priceless!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#816 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:53 pm



:uarrow: Hmmm, if that were to happen, for North Texas and Oklahoma maybe a repeat of either the Christmas Eve blizzard in 2009 and/or the 2012 White Christmas event?
I thought it was utterly amazing that we ended up having two such Christmastime winter weather events within five years of each other. But if that model idea were to materialize at all, anyone for three White Christmas events for North Texas within a decade?!? That would be pretty incredible!

:cold: :froze: :jacket:

Not everyone will remember this, but where's Mississippi State Wx Guy when you need him? :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#817 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:59 pm

:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: Ok, in another few days, if trends continue, I'm beginning to feel the need for the PWC office in ATX to consider issuing a press release. :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#818 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:04 pm

The Teleconnection indices are beginning to raise an eyebrow. Possible --AO/+PNA/-WPO/-EPO Hemispheric regime tends to suggest trouble for we warm weather lovers.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#819 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:25 pm

srainhoutx wrote:The Teleconnection indices are beginning to raise an eyebrow. Possible --AO/+PNA/-WPO/-EPO Hemispheric regime tends to suggest trouble for we warm weather lovers.



Looks like we are on the road....the road to cold...he he ....:)
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#820 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:33 pm

6z GFS starts running in about an hour, any bets? Southeast or southwest ridge? Alaskan or NW Canada ridge? Over under starts at 30F (+/- 25 degrees)
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