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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#721 Postby davidiowx » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:49 pm

jasons wrote:It's gonna miss the first forecast point to the west...


How far are we talking? A few miles or 50 miles?
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Re: ATL: THREE - Models

#722 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:50 pm

Consensus of computer models suggest this system will track northwest and may move inland over coastal texas sometime thursday as a tropical storm.

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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#723 Postby HeeBGBz » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:51 pm

Season's afoot and hello to all. Should we on the Mississippi coast expect any tropical warnings? I work in east Biloxi and that entire side of old town goes underwater in a hard rain. :double:
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#724 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:51 pm

Also would not be surprised if we see some marked increase in convection once these two vorts finish the merging process. It will allow a steady lowering of pressure and more uniform convergence.
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Re: ATL: THREE - Models

#725 Postby caneman » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:53 pm

Digital-TC-Chaser wrote:Consensus of computer models suggest this system will track northwest and may move inland over coastal texas sometime thursday as a tropical storm.

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The majority show Louisiana. If so, there may not be much rain in Texas
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#726 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:54 pm

Aric what is Jason talking about ?
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#727 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:57 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Aric what is Jason talking about ?


read up I described what its happening. it has been rotating southward all day. good hundred miles or so from first recon fix.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#728 Postby BiloxiBeachGuy » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:57 pm

Rocketman wrote:The City of Biloxi (and the residents there) been in a huge water drainage project in the eastern part of town. This is going to set things back a bit.


I live in West Biloxi but I work in a East Biloxi. The roads have been a mess for a long time. These streets are going to flood in no time! I may not be able to deliver in some of these areas. Parts of Keesler Air Force Base also flood during heavy rains as does Highway 90 (Beach Boulevard). I feel for the people who have had to live through the road work in East Biloxi.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#729 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:57 pm

Mid GOM Buoy
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25.897 N 89.668 W


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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#730 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:58 pm

Ok, so ur saying NHC will shift track more towards the west ?
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#731 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:59 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Ok, so ur saying NHC will shift track more towards the west ?


just revise the timing..
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#732 Postby jasons2k » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:02 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:Aric what is Jason talking about ?


read up I described what its happening. it has been rotating southward all day. good hundred miles or so from first recon fix.


Yes, sorry I didn't reply earlier. If you look at a really long satellite loop and speed it up, you can see the center is consolidating. And it's south and west of the NHC plot line....

So you got two factors that will send this to Texas. 1) A bad initialization that needs to be corrected, and 2) the Euro winning the model war with a west tug at the end.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#733 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:06 pm

500mb Vort
03L and the ULL in the NW GOM almost look like Siamese twins.
Very close, should see a Fujiwhara rotation.
03L will likely take a NW turn toward Texas

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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#734 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:12 pm

Debris from afternoon storms over Mexico filling in some of the dry slot.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/wv-animated.gif
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#735 Postby sphelps8681 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:18 pm

jasons wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:Aric what is Jason talking about ?


read up I described what its happening. it has been rotating southward all day. good hundred miles or so from first recon fix.


Yes, sorry I didn't reply earlier. If you look at a really long satellite loop and speed it up, you can see the center is consolidating. And it's south and west of the NHC plot line....

So you got two factors that will send this to Texas. 1) A bad initialization that needs to be corrected, and 2) the Euro winning the model war with a west tug at the end.


Some of us don't know what you mean when you say it has been rotating southward all day. Some explanation would be greatly appreciated if ya'll could tell what that means for potential change in the forecast if any. For anything that is said that means a change of any sort. With only a couple of days for anyone to prepare this would be great.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#736 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:25 pm

we are off to a great start with the modeling :roll:
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#737 Postby davidiowx » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:25 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:
jasons wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
read up I described what its happening. it has been rotating southward all day. good hundred miles or so from first recon fix.


Yes, sorry I didn't reply earlier. If you look at a really long satellite loop and speed it up, you can see the center is consolidating. And it's south and west of the NHC plot line....

So you got two factors that will send this to Texas. 1) A bad initialization that needs to be corrected, and 2) the Euro winning the model war with a west tug at the end.


Some of us don't know what you mean when you say it has been rotating southward all day. Some explanation would be greatly appreciated if ya'll could tell what that means for potential change in the forecast if any. For anything that is said that means a change of any sort. With only a couple of days for anyone to prepare this would be great.


Basically the track would shift a little bit more towards the west. Having said that, that doesn't mean a whole lot in regards to where the flooding rains and gusty winds will end up. As of now, (things can and will likely change) this storm is very lopsided with all of the convection and heavy rain off to the east and north east of the center.

Follow the NHC guidance, and check often, as there are a lot of uncertainties with this system.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#738 Postby TexasF6 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:27 pm

The PTC looks to my eyes, to move initially WSW, then WNW at the end of the loop. Storms popping finally over the vorticies. Gonna be an interesting season if it starts like this!








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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#739 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:31 pm

jlauderdal wrote:we are off to a great start with the modeling :roll:

Yep! Hard to believe we're in 2017.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#740 Postby sphelps8681 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:31 pm

davidiowx wrote:
sphelps8681 wrote:
jasons wrote:
Yes, sorry I didn't reply earlier. If you look at a really long satellite loop and speed it up, you can see the center is consolidating. And it's south and west of the NHC plot line....

So you got two factors that will send this to Texas. 1) A bad initialization that needs to be corrected, and 2) the Euro winning the model war with a west tug at the end.


Some of us don't know what you mean when you say it has been rotating southward all day. Some explanation would be greatly appreciated if ya'll could tell what that means for potential change in the forecast if any. For anything that is said that means a change of any sort. With only a couple of days for anyone to prepare this would be great.


Basically the track would shift a little bit more towards the west. Having said that, that doesn't mean a whole lot in regards to where the flooding rains and gusty winds will end up. As of now, (things can and will likely change) this storm is very lopsided with all of the convection and heavy rain off to the east and north east of the center.

Follow the NHC guidance, and check often, as there are a lot of uncertainties with this system.


Thank you for your response but I get more info on here before it is disclosed to the public. That is why I like this site.
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