2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#541 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:09 am

weathaguyry wrote:
GCANE wrote:That surface low, that GFS is showing coming off Africa in about 72 hrs, looks interesting.
It'll start will an UL HIgh just to its north and will track along to about midway in the Atlantic.
At that time, UL winds in the Atlantic look more favorable with no big ULL.
Once the wave gets to the islands, it looks like an anticyclone may develop over it.


I'm pretty sure that having 2 MDR storms form before July 1st would be a pretty significant indicator for an active hurricane season! :eek:


Good thing is that only the GFS op is showing this. The GFS para, ECMWF, and other models are not. CMC is showing that storm coming toward the SE though.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#542 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:51 am

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GFS now showing a TS on Wednesday
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#543 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 am

weathaguyry wrote:Image

GFS now showing a TS on Wednesday

But then weakens it instantly thereafter.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#544 Postby blp » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:06 am

If the CFS is to be believed it looks like a nice window will open up between 15-21 days for something to get going in the MDR.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#545 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:11 am

:uarrow: That would be about the same time-frame that the CFS was loving for a potential potent hurricane in the MDR. Not to mention the extremely long-range GFS(days 14-16) is hinting at something getting going.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#546 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:10 pm

Euro showing Don in 96hrs.

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Let's see if the Euro Parallel keeps it when it runs.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#547 Postby Siker » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:22 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Euro showing Bret in 96hrs.

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Let's see if the Euro Parallel keeps it when it runs.


Think you missed two storms :P .
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#548 Postby gatorcane » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:23 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Euro showing Bret in 96hrs.

http://i.imgur.com/0vhmaBP.gif

Let's see if the Euro Parallel keeps it when it runs.


That would be "Don" if the Euro is right. Quite a wave for end-of-June that will be moving off Africa in a couple of days, you can see all of the vorticity using this loop:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24

Conditions looks rather hostile once the wave moves further west away from Africa which is no surprise given it is only end-of-June.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#549 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:27 pm

gatorcane wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Euro showing Bret in 96hrs.

http://i.imgur.com/0vhmaBP.gif

Let's see if the Euro Parallel keeps it when it runs.


That would be "Don" if the Euro is right. Quite a wave for end-of-June that will be moving off Africa in a couple of days, you can see all of the vorticity using this loop:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24

Conditions looks rather hostile once the wave moves further west away from Africa which is no surprise given it is only end-of-June.



Damn, my bad lol. Just woke up. I knew there was something off.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#550 Postby tolakram » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:52 pm

 https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/879431904025616384




Indeed some ensemble support for tropical development right off coast of Africa later in week. HRES 9-km has a hurricane.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#551 Postby tolakram » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:49 pm

Another likely phantom storm on the latest GFS run. This is behind the wave currently tagged yellow at 5 days.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#552 Postby WeatherHoon » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:28 am

00Z run still has it, but very weak. We'll see, but it looks terrible out in the Atlantic right now. Lots of dry air and wind shear. Curious to see if there will be a drastic change in conditions once we arrive at the timeframe the GFS has this.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#553 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:16 am

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#554 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:19 am

Two runs in a row and one run yesterday where the GFS is showing Cape Verde development, animation between 120 hours and 240 hours below:

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#555 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:43 am

GFS develops a long-track TC in about five days. Euro has the strong wave, but it doesn't develop. Looking at the environment the GFS has in the forecast, it doesn't really look unfavorable. If anything, it looks somewhat favorable...
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#556 Postby srainhoutx » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:56 am

The morning Updated Hemispheric Pattern suggest that around Week 2, A CCKW and somewhat favorable MJO nears the Pacific Coast of Mexico and the Western Atlantic Basin.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#557 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:58 am

Looking a little closer, the GFS seems to develop the wave associated with this strong MCS near Togo.

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Then the vigorous wave develops when the AEJ extends over the ocean and appears to help develop the mid-level circulation.

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I honestly don't know if this commonly how TC's develop in the Eastern Atlantic (where they interact with the AEJ). However, that appears to be whats happening here.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#558 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:35 am

I am VERY skeptical of anything developing in the Tropical Atlantic after what we saw with the models on the wave currently emerging west Africa today.

What I can take though from the GFS is even though it is only June 28th it must be seeing an uptick in tropical activity in the coming weeks. This comes about a good 4-6 weeks ahead of climatology.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#559 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:05 am

gatorcane wrote:Two runs in a row and one run yesterday where the GFS is showing Cape Verde development, animation between 120 hours and 240 hours below:

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GFS plows this into a stout ridge. Don't know how believable that is.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#560 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:09 am

Kingarabian wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Two runs in a row and one run yesterday where the GFS is showing Cape Verde development, animation between 120 hours and 240 hours below:

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GFS plows this into a stout ridge. Don't know how believable that is.


Where? When? What level are you looking at. All I see is a TC moving WNW around the subtropical ridge.
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