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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#461 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:54 pm

I believe yesterday evenings GFS run had a similar track, but the end result was N C.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#462 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:55 pm

And then up to Long Island at 966mb. A great GFS hype model run.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#463 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:55 pm

And D14-D15, decides to pay me a visit. Geez. Just thnking about how those 24hrs would be for our county emergency departments is terrifying. Talk about being pushed to the limit.

Remember though, this is one run of one model, with a lead time of over 300 hours.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#464 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:57 pm

Good thing it is only the GFS-OP showing this.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#465 Postby storm4u » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:58 pm

Gfs has the center over my head at 348 good things its way out there
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#466 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:59 pm

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gatorcane wrote:I would rather be in the crosshairs in South Florida this far out knowing it will change as we get closer. Hope the GFS has lost its mind. :double:

Feels like pre-Matthew all over again.


Matthew had the full ECMWF support.

Pretty sure NCEP is nervous and they're afraid this will be a massive bust by the GFS. I'm sure they can't wait to make the GFS Parallel operational.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#467 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:59 pm

The bottomline for the folks in the islands is In the short term they have to watch how things progress in real time with this wave.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#468 Postby weathaguyry » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:01 pm

Oh yay, 965mb hurricane into Central Long Island :D Also note that tides will be above average, since the Full moon is on the 22nd I believe :eek: :oops:
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#469 Postby Alyono » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:02 pm

the one thing that gives me pause is now much the Japanese model develops this. It is usually one of the most conservative models.

I'd give it a 30 percent chance of development within the next 7 days
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#470 Postby weathaguyry » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:02 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:And D14-D15, decides to pay me a visit. Geez. Just thnking about how those 24hrs would be for our county emergency departments is terrifying. Talk about being pushed to the limit.

Remember though, this is one run of one model, with a lead time of over 300 hours.


Full moon is around that time too :eek:
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#471 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:04 pm

Alyono wrote:the one thing that gives me pause is now much the Japanese model develops this. It is usually one of the most conservative models.

I'd give it a 30 percent chance of development within the next 7 days

What do you thnk about the shear issue? The GFS clears the way, while the GFS-P maintains a sandblaster aimed down this thing's throat. Current CIMSS analysis suggusts a blockaded Caribbean, with shear ranging between 20 and 50 knots, albeit the strongest shear is west of Hispanola's axis.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#472 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:04 pm

cycloneye wrote:The bottomline for the folks in the islands is In the short term they have to watch how things progress in real time with this wave.


Yes that is true considering how fast this system moves across to the Lesser Antilles. The GFS has a 972mb hurricane into the Lesser Antilles in just 132 hours from now.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#473 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:05 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:
Alyono wrote:the one thing that gives me pause is now much the Japanese model develops this. It is usually one of the most conservative models.

I'd give it a 30 percent chance of development within the next 7 days

What do you thnk about the shear issue? The GFS clears the way, while the GFS-P maintains a sandblaster aimed down this thing's throat. Current CIMSS analysis suggusts a blockaded Caribbean, with shear ranging between 20 and 50 knots, albeit the strongest shear is west of Hispanola's axis.


Its credible considering the state of ENSO.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#474 Postby Alyono » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:10 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:
Alyono wrote:the one thing that gives me pause is now much the Japanese model develops this. It is usually one of the most conservative models.

I'd give it a 30 percent chance of development within the next 7 days

What do you thnk about the shear issue? The GFS clears the way, while the GFS-P maintains a sandblaster aimed down this thing's throat. Current CIMSS analysis suggusts a blockaded Caribbean, with shear ranging between 20 and 50 knots, albeit the strongest shear is west of Hispanola's axis.


50 kts seems unreasonable. That is strong el niño levels, or if we have a strong EPAC cyclone. We should not have either next week
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#475 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:11 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:
Alyono wrote:the one thing that gives me pause is now much the Japanese model develops this. It is usually one of the most conservative models.

I'd give it a 30 percent chance of development within the next 7 days

What do you thnk about the shear issue? The GFS clears the way, while the GFS-P maintains a sandblaster aimed down this thing's throat. Current CIMSS analysis suggusts a blockaded Caribbean, with shear ranging between 20 and 50 knots, albeit the strongest shear is west of Hispanola's axis.


Image

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A slight difference in 200 mb winds, but not what I'd call a "sand blaster". With one, you see a strong hurricane and it's anti-cyclone modifying the upper level flow, and with the other model you see a weak TS running into 30 kts of shear.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#476 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:12 pm

Alyono wrote:
Hurricane Andrew wrote:
Alyono wrote:the one thing that gives me pause is now much the Japanese model develops this. It is usually one of the most conservative models.

I'd give it a 30 percent chance of development within the next 7 days

What do you thnk about the shear issue? The GFS clears the way, while the GFS-P maintains a sandblaster aimed down this thing's throat. Current CIMSS analysis suggusts a blockaded Caribbean, with shear ranging between 20 and 50 knots, albeit the strongest shear is west of Hispanola's axis.
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50 kts seems unreasonable. That is strong el niño levels, or if we have a strong EPAC cyclone. We should not have either next week

Hmm...I can't get the sounding feature from TT to work on my iPad...but I wonder how much the GFS-P is showing for next week.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#477 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:13 pm

RL3AO wrote:Image

Image

A slight difference in 200 mb winds, but not what I'd call a "sand blaster". With one, you see a strong hurricane and it's anti-cyclone modifying the upper level flow, and with the other model you see a weak TS running into 30 kts of shear.

Fair enough. :D
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#478 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:13 pm

Kingarabian wrote:12z GFS Parallel is weaker than the OP Euro.


I don't see that.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#479 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:13 pm

18z GFS ensembles still pretty vigorous with the system.
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Re: Tropical Wave South of CV Islands

#480 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:18 pm

Throughout the Caribbean, the Euro has 30-50kts of shear as well. Maybe higher.
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