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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#81 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:25 pm

JMA now has Noru as a severe tropical storm. JTWC however has dropped the intensity down to 45 kt for 00Z. I'm a little surprised to see how bearish they are with their analysis, and I can't say I really agree with it.

WDPN31 PGTW 230300
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL STORM 07W (NORU) WARNING NR
010//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS
TROPICAL STORM (TS) 07W (NORU), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 286 NM
NORTH-NORTHWEST OF MINAMI TORI SHIMA, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 08
KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED HIGH RESOLUTION
MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS A SYSTEM STRUGGLING TO
MAINTAIN STRENGTH, AND DECREASED CENTRAL CONVECTION. MULTIPLE
PULSES OF CONVECTION HAVE BROKEN OFF OF THE CORE MASS RESULTING IN
AN EVER SMALLER CONVECTIVE CORE NEAR THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION
CENTER (LLCC). AT THE SAME TIME THE UPPER LEVEL OUTFLOW SIGNATURE
THAT WAS VERY PROMINENT SIX HOURS AGO HAS ALL BUT DISSIPATED. THE
CURRENT POSITION IS PLACED WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE BASED ON A 222356Z
AMSU-B 89 GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE, WHICH ALSO SHOWS THAT DEEPCONVECTION
HAS SIGNIFICANTLY WANED SINCE THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, WHILE
SHALLOW CONVECTIVE BANDS ARE STILL FLOWING INTO A WELL DEFINED
LLCC. THE CURRENT INTENSITY HAS BEEN REDUCED TO 45 KNOTS IN LINE
WITH SUBJECTIVE DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF T3.0 FROM ALL
AGENCIES AND SATCON ESTIMATES OF 47 KNOTS. UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS
REVEALS THAT UPPER LEVEL OUTFLOW HAS SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKENED, WITH
THE UPPER-LEVEL ANTICYCLONE MOVING FURTHER AWAY TO THE SOUTHEAST,
LEAVING TS 07W WITH ONLY WEAK OUTFLOW CHANNELS.
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR
(VWS) REMAINS LOW AT 5-10 KNOTS AND SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES NEAR
30 DEG CELSIUS ARE SUPPORTIVE FOR INTENSIFICATION. TS 07W IS
DRIFTING SLOWLY WESTWARD AND HAS BASICALLY BECOME QUASI-STATIONARY
AS OF THE INITIAL POSITION TIME.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE IN THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE PREVIOUS
PROGNOSTIC REASONING.
B. TS 07W HAS BECOME QUASI-STATIONARY AND IS FORECAST TO SLOWLY
MEANDER FOR THE NEXT 12 HOURS. AFTER TAU 24, THE SYSTEM WILL TURN
TOWARDS THE SOUTHEAST AND ACCELERATE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF TWO
FACTORS. FIRST, AN EXTENSION OF THE STR TO THE NORTH WILL DEVELOP
TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE SYSTEM, TURNING IT TOWARDS THE SOUTH. ONCE
THE TURN OCCURS, THE SYSTEM WILL COME UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE
NER TO THE SOUTH. THIS NER, COMBINED WITH THE APPROACH AND
POTENTIAL BINARY INTERACTION WITH TS 09W OR ITS REMNANTS WILL LEAD
THE SYSTEM TO TRACK TOWARDS THE EAST-SOUTHEAST THROUGH TAU 48. BY
TAU 72, TS 07W WILL BEGIN TRACKING NORTHWESTWARDS AS IT INTERACTS
WITH TS 09W. TS 07W IS FORECAST TO MAINTAIN ITS CURRENT INTENSITY
FOR THE NEXT 12 HOURS, THEREAFTER STEADILY INTENSIFYING AS THE
SYSTEM TAPS INTO AN EASTWARD OUTFLOW CHANNEL PROVIDED BY AN UPPER
LEVEL LOW CENTERED TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SYSTEM AND PEAKING AT
TAU 48. DYNAMIC GUIDANCE IS IN SURPRISINGLY GOOD AGREEMENT IN
SUPPORTING THE FORECAST THROUGH TAU 72 WITH HWRF THE SOLE OUTLIER
KEEPING THE SYSTEM IN A MUCH TIGHTER LOOP.
C. IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST PERIOD, TS 09W WILL APPROACH WITHIN
200 NM BY TAU 72 AND THE TWO SYSTEMS SHOULD BE FULLY CAPTURED IN A
BINARY INTERACTION, THOUGH TS 09W WILL HAVE DISSIPATED BY TAU 72
AND SO THE ENCOUNTER WILL BE BRIEF. TS 07W IS STILL FORECAST TO
TRACK IN A CYCLONIC LOOP UNDER A WEAK STEERING ENVIRONMENT THROUGH
TAU 96. BY TAU 120, A STR BECOMES FIRMLY ENTRENCHED OVER SOUTHERN
JAPAN, AND WILL RESULT IN A TURN BACK TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST BY TAU
120. THE UPPER LEVEL ENVIRONMENT BECOMES LESS FAVORABLE AFTER TAU
72 WITH NO STRONG OUTFLOW CHANNELS. ADDITIONALLY, AS THE SYSTEM
TRACKS BACK OVER WATERS PREVIOUSLY TRAVERSED, UPWELLING COOLED
WATERS WILL STARVE THE SYSTEM OF ENERGY. DUE TO THE COMPLEX
INTERACTION BETWEEN THE TWO SYSTEMS AND THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE
UPPER-LEVEL ENVIRONMENT, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC
FORECAST.//
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Sure, it's a small system, but I think JTWC went a little too extreme there.

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#82 Postby NotoSans » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:55 am

JMA up to CI 4.0 and 60 kt at their latest advisory.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#83 Postby doomhaMwx » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:52 am

WOW!
Noru looking impressive!
Eye/center is already visible/well-defined on IR imagery...

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#84 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:00 am

TPPN10 PGTW 230920

A. TROPICAL STORM 07W (NORU)

B. 23/0850Z

C. 27.96N

D. 151.30E

E. ONE/HMWRI8

F. T4.0/4.0/D1.5/24HRS STT: D1.0/03HRS

G. IR/EIR

H. REMARKS: 05A/PBO IRREG EYE/ANMTN. OW EYE SURROUNDED BY B
YIELDS AN E# AND DT (NO EYE ADJUSTMENT) OF 5.5. MET: 4.0. PT:
5.0. DBO MET. BROKE CONSTRAINTS DUE TO OBVIOUS SMALL, PINHOLE
EYE THAT HAS BEEN FORMING SINCE LAST SYNOPTIC FIX.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
23/0442Z 28.00N 151.13E MMHS


DAVIS


TXPQ23 KNES 230923
TCSWNP

A. 07W (NORU)

B. 23/0830Z

C. 28.0N

D. 151.3E

E. ONE/HIMAWARI-8

F. T4.5/4.5/D1.5/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM HAS DEVELOPED RAPIDLY OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS
RESULTING IN A MET OF 4.5. PT IS 5.0. DG EYE IS EMBEDDED IN LG AND
SURROUNDED BY W RESULTING IN A DT OF 5.5 AFTER 0.5 IS ADDED FOR AN EYE
ADJUSTMENT. THE AVERAGE DT CALCULATED HOURLY ENDING AT 0830Z WAS 4.4,
WHICH DOES NOT JUSTIFY BREAKING CONSTRAINTS AT THIS TIME. THEREFORE FT
IS BASED ON CONSTRAINTS LIMITING CHANGES IN T-NUMBER TO 1.0 OVER 6 HOURS.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...TURK


These look more realistic.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#85 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:17 am

WDPN31 PGTW 230900
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL STORM 07W (NORU) WARNING NR
11//
RMKS//
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TROPICAL STORM (TS) 07W (NORU), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 268 NM
NORTHWEST OF MINAMI TORI SHIMA, HAS TRACKED SOUTHWARD AT 04 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED HIGH RESOLUTION MULTISPECTRAL
SATELLITE IMAGERY (MSI) DEPICTS TIGHTLY CURVED BANDING WRAPPING INTO
A PARTIALLY EXPOSED AND INCREASINGLY COMPACT LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION
CENTER (LLCC), AFTER A LARGE PORTION OF DEEP CONVECTION SPLIT OFF
AND MOVED EASTWARD. A 230515Z SSMIS 91 GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE REVEALS A
THIN BAND OF DEEP CONVECTION WRAPPING ALONG THE NORTHEASTERN
QUADRANT INTO THE COMPACT CORE, AND SUPPORTS THE INITIAL POSITIONING
WITH GOOD CONFIDENCE. FIXES INDICATE TS 07W HAS TURNED SOUTHWARD,
BEGINNING THE EXPECTED LOOP BACK TO THE EAST. THE INITIAL INTENSITY
WAS INCREASED TO 55 KNOTS, WITH DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM PGTW AND RJTD
RANGING BETWEEN 45 TO 65 KNOTS, AND SATCON CONSENSUS NEAR 55 KNOTS.
ADDITIONALLY, THE MSI AT THE SYNOPTIC HOUR SUGGESTED AN EYE MAY BE
TRYING TO FORM, AND THIS HAS BECOME MORE APPARENT OVER THE PAST FEW
HOURS. DESPITE FAIR OUTFLOW THAT IS LIMITED TO AN EASTWARD
CHANNEL, THE ANOMALOUSLY WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES, SLOW
FORWARD MOTION, AND LOW (5-10 KNOTS) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS) ARE
CONTRIBUTING TO THE CURRENT INTENSIFICATION. TS 07W IS IN A COMPLEX
STEERING ENVIRONMENT, NEARLY SURROUNDED BY RIDGING ON THREE SIDES.
STEERING FLOW IS TRANSITIONING FROM SUBTROPICAL RIDGING TO THE WEST
TO A NEAR EQUATORIAL RIDGE (NER) TO THE SOUTH OF THE SYSTEM.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE IN THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE PREVIOUS
PROGNOSTIC REASONING.
B. TS 07W IS EXPECTED TO TURN BACK TO THE EAST AND ACCELERATE NOW
THAT THE NER TO THE SOUTH IS TAKING OVER THE STEERING MECHANISM.
AROUND TAU 48, RIDGING IS EXPECTED TO BUILD IN AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM
IN COMBINATION WITH POSSIBLE BINARY ACTION WITH TS 09W, RESULTING IN
A TURN TO THE NORTH THROUGH TAU 72. TS 07W IS FORECAST TO INTENSIFY
STEADILY OVER THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS BECOME
INCREASINGLY FAVORABLE, HOWEVER, AROUND 72 SLIGHT WEAKENING IS
EXPECTED DUE TO COOLER SSTS AS TS 07W BEGINS TO MOVE BACK OVER ITS
PREVIOUS TRACK. DYNAMIC GUIDANCE REMAINS IN SURPRISINGLY GOOD
AGREEMENT THROUGH TAU 72 WITH HWRF THE SOLE OUTLIER KEEPING THE
SYSTEM IN A MUCH TIGHTER LOOP.
C. IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST PERIOD, TS 09W WILL APPROACH WITHIN
200 NM BY TAU 72 AND THE TWO SYSTEMS SHOULD BE FULLY CAPTURED IN A
BINARY INTERACTION, THOUGH TS 09W WILL HAVE DISSIPATED BY TAU 72 AND
SO THE ENCOUNTER WILL BE BRIEF. TS 07W IS STILL FORECAST TO TRACK IN
A CYCLONIC LOOP UNDER A WEAK STEERING ENVIRONMENT THROUGH TAU 96. BY
TAU 120, A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE BECOMES FIRMLY ENTRENCHED OVER SOUTHERN
JAPAN, AND WILL RESULT IN A TURN BACK TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST. THE
UPPER LEVEL ENVIRONMENT BECOMES LESS FAVORABLE AFTER TAU 72 WITH NO
STRONG OUTFLOW CHANNELS. ADDITIONALLY, AS THE SYSTEM TRACKS BACK
OVER WATERS PREVIOUSLY TRAVERSED, UPWELLING COOLER WATERS WILL
OFFSET THE POTENTIAL FOR INTENSIFICATION. DUE TO THE COMPLEX
INTERACTION BETWEEN THE TWO SYSTEMS AND THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE UPPER-
LEVEL ENVIRONMENT, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC FORECAST.//
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#86 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:24 am

SSD floaters are down at the moment as this is rapidly intensifying. Any backups?
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#87 Postby Alyono » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:27 am

did JTWC really say this is a tropical storm with a pinhole eye?

That warning posted is factually incorrect

1. Dvorak estimates go as high as 77 kts. JTWC needs to use ALL estimates
2. Anyone who gets a 3.0 with a pinhole eye should not be doing Dvorak estimates at all

Basically, what JTWC did was say A, B, and C is X, Y, and Z
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#88 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:47 am

Quite a change from the EURO. It takes Noru even further west.

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#89 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:58 am

GFS continues with sub 900 mb. Peaks it at 889 mb just east of the Bonin Islands.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#90 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:59 am

Here are what the other global models have this bottoming out.

JMA 956 mb

NAVGEM 965 mb

CMC 947 mb
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#91 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:01 am

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CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.3 / 987.3mb/ 51.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
3.3 3.4 3.4

Can't even find the eye thus registering a low reading. :lol:
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Severe Tropical Storm

#92 Postby dexterlabio » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:39 am

Someone is clearly out to lunch. :lol: Perhaps the new GFS is not so crazy after all blowing up this system.

BTW JMA finally upgraded Noru to a 70kt typhoon. Noru is the first official typhoon in the WPAC since Nock-ten in December 2016.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#93 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:11 am

JMA upgrades to the first Typhoon of 2017 season.

TY 1705 (Noru)
Issued at 12:45 UTC, 23 July 2017

<Analysis at 12 UTC, 23 July>
Scale -
Intensity Strong
Center position N28°05' (28.1°)
E151°25' (151.4°)
Direction and speed of movement Almost stationary
Central pressure 975 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 35 m/s (70 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 50 m/s (100 kt)
≥ 50 kt wind area ALL 70 km (40 NM)
≥ 30 kt wind area ALL 330 km (180 NM)

<Forecast for 12 UTC, 24 July>
Intensity Strong
Center position of probability circle N26°00' (26.0°)
E154°20' (154.3°)
Direction and speed of movement SE 15 km/h (8 kt)
Central pressure 970 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 40 m/s (75 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 55 m/s (105 kt)
Radius of probability circle 110 km (60 NM)
Storm warning area ALL 240 km (130 NM)

<Forecast for 12 UTC, 25 July>
Intensity Very strong
Center position of probability circle N26°40' (26.7°)
E158°00' (158.0°)
Direction and speed of movement E 15 km/h (8 kt)
Central pressure 955 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 45 m/s (85 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 60 m/s (120 kt)
Radius of probability circle 200 km (110 NM)
Storm warning area ALL 350 km (190 NM)

<Forecast for 12 UTC, 26 July>
Intensity Very strong
Center position of probability circle N29°35' (29.6°)
E154°30' (154.5°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 20 km/h (11 kt)
Central pressure 955 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 45 m/s (85 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 60 m/s (120 kt)
Radius of probability circle 240 km (130 NM)
Storm warning area ALL 390 km (210 NM)

<Forecast for 12 UTC, 27 July>
Center position of probability circle N29°50' (29.8°)
E150°25' (150.4°)
Direction and speed of movement W 15 km/h (9 kt)
Radius of probability circle 300 km (160 NM)

<Forecast for 12 UTC, 28 July>
Center position of probability circle N29°00' (29.0°)
E146°20' (146.3°)
Direction and speed of movement W 15 km/h (9 kt)
Radius of probability circle 370 km (200 NM)

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#94 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:19 am

Instantaneous Data T right now for a Light Grey CDO and black ring surrounding a (barely) off-white eye yields 5.5. If the eye cools back to dark or medium grey, we lose the 0.5 eye adjustment though, keeping only the 5.0 eye number.

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#95 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:25 am

Yeah JTWC now up to 85 knots and peak calls for Cat 3 100 knots now.

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#96 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:26 am

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#97 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:51 am

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#98 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:52 am

WDPN31 PGTW 231500
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TYPHOON 07W (NORU) WARNING NR 12//
RMKS//
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TYPHOON (TY) 07W (NORU), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 268 NM NORTH-
NORTHWEST OF MINAMI TORI SHIMA, HAS REMAINED NEARLY STATIONARY OVER
THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY
(EIR) INDICATES NORU HAS UNDERGONE RAPID INTENSIFICATION OVER THE
PAST SIX HOURS, AND NOW POSSESSES A 10 NM DIAMETER PINHOLE EYE. A
230821Z SSMIS 91 GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE REVEALED AN EXTREMELY COMPACT
CORE WITH CONVECTION WRAPPING IN ALONG THE NORTHEASTERN QUADRANT. A
231110Z METOP-A 89 GHZ PASS SUGGESTS THE CONVECTIVE CORE HAS
INCREASED IN DIAMETER SLIGHTLY, WITH A MICROWAVE EYE RESOLVED IN
THAT IMAGE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY WAS INCREASED TO 85 KNOTS, WITH
DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM PGTW, KNES, AND RJTD RANGING BETWEEN 65 TO 90
KNOTS, WHILE SATCON AND ADT ARE NOT RESOLVING THE PINHOLE EYE
LEADING TO UNREALISTICALLY LOW ESTIMATES.
MODERATE EASTWARD
OUTFLOW, ANOMALOUSLY WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES (SSTS), SLOW
FORWARD MOTION, AND LOW (5-10 KNOTS) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS) ARE
CONTRIBUTING TO THE CURRENT INTENSIFICATION. TY 07W IS IN A COMPLEX
STEERING ENVIRONMENT, NEARLY SURROUNDED BY RIDGING ON THREE SIDES.
STEERING FLOW IS TRANSITIONING FROM SUBTROPICAL RIDGING TO THE WEST
TO A NEAR EQUATORIAL RIDGE (NER) TO THE SOUTH OF THE SYSTEM.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THE CURRENT AND FORECAST INTENSITIES HAVE BEEN REVISED UPWARD
IN RESPONSE TO RAPID INTENSIFICATION THAT OCCURRED OVER THE PAST SIX
HOURS.
B. TY 07W IS EXPECTED TO TURN BACK TO THE EAST AND ACCELERATE NOW
THAT THE NER TO THE SOUTH IS TAKING OVER THE STEERING MECHANISM.
AFTER TAU 36, RIDGING IS EXPECTED TO BUILD IN AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM IN
COMBINATION WITH POSSIBLE BINARY ACTION WITH TS 09W, RESULTING IN A
TURN TO THE NORTH TO NORTHWEST THROUGH TAU 72 AT WHICH POINT A
STEERING RIDGE TO THE NORTH WILL BECOME THE PREDOMINANT STEERING
MECHANISM. FORECAST GUIDANCE INDICATES ADDITIONAL INTENSIFICATION IS
LIKELY THROUGH TAU 36 AS ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS REMAIN FAVORABLE.
AROUND TAU 48 SLIGHT WEAKENING IS EXPECTED DUE TO COOLER SSTS AS TY
07W BEGINS TO MOVE TO THE NORTH AND BACK OVER ITS PREVIOUS TRACK.
DYNAMICAL MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS IN SURPRISINGLY GOOD AGREEMENT
THROUGH TAU 72, WITH NO SIGNIFICANT OUTLIERS DURING THIS PERIOD. THE
FORECAST WAS PLACED VERY CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST.
C. IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST PERIOD, TY 07W IS FORECAST TO
CONTINUE TRACKING IN A CYCLONIC LOOP AS A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE BECOMES
FIRMLY ENTRENCHED OVER SOUTHERN JAPAN, RESULTING IN A TURN TOWARDS
THE SOUTHWEST. AS TY 07W BEGINS TO TRACK SOUTHWESTWARD, IT WILL ONCE
AGAIN MOVE INTO AN AREA OF ANOMALOUSLY HIGH SSTS AND OCEAN HEAT
CONTENT, AND SHIPS GUIDANCE INDICATES VWS WILL REMAIN LIGHT ALLOWING
FOR ANOTHER PERIOD OF INTENSIFICATION. BEYOND THE RANGE OF THIS
FORECAST, GFS EVENTUALLY DEEPENS NORU TO LESS THAN 890 MB.
DUE TO
THE COMPLEX INTERACTION BETWEEN THE 07W AND 09W, AND THE UNCERTAINTY
IN THE UPPER- LEVEL ENVIRONMENT, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC
FORECAST.//
NNNN
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#99 Postby NotoSans » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:05 pm

Latest high res ECMWF shows a peak intensity of 914 mb. I'm still a bit skeptical of such solutions.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#100 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:06 pm

110 knots peak intensity.

WDPN31 PGTW 232100
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TYPHOON 07W (NORU) WARNING NR 13//
RMKS//
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TYPHOON (TY) 07W (NORU), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 268 NM NORTH-
NORTHWEST OF MINAMI TORI SHIMA, HAS REMAINED NEARLY STATIONARY OVER
THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY
DEPICTS A COMPACT SYSTEM WITH TIGHTLY CURVED BANDING WRAPPING INTO
A RAGGED 5-NM CLOUD-FILLED EYE, AND SUPPORTS THE INITIAL POSITION
WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS AT 85 KNOTS,
SUPPORTED BY DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF T4.5 (77-90
KNOTS) FROM PGTW. SATCON AND ADT ARE NOT RESOLVING THE PINHOLE EYE
LEADING TO UNREALISTICALLY LOW ESTIMATES. MODERATE EASTWARD
OUTFLOW, ANOMALOUSLY WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES (SSTS), AND LOW
(10-15 KNOTS) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS) ARE CONTRIBUTING TO
FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. TY 07W IS IN A COMPLEX STEERING
ENVIRONMENT, NEARLY SURROUNDED BY RIDGING ON THREE SIDES. STEERING
FLOW IS TRANSITIONING FROM SUBTROPICAL RIDGING TO THE WEST TO A
NEAR EQUATORIAL RIDGE (NER) TO THE SOUTH OF THE SYSTEM.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE PREVIOUS
PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
B. TY 07W IS EXPECTED TO TURN BACK TO THE EAST AND ACCELERATE,
OVER THE NEXT 36 HOURS, AS THE NER TO THE SOUTH IS TAKING OVER THE
STEERING MECHANISM. AFTER TAU 36, RIDGING IS EXPECTED TO BUILD IN
AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM IN COMBINATION WITH POSSIBLE BINARY ACTION WITH
TS 09W, RESULTING IN A TURN TO THE NORTH TO NORTHWEST THROUGH TAU
72, AT WHICH POINT A STEERING RIDGE TO THE NORTH WILL BECOME THE
PREDOMINANT STEERING MECHANISM. FORECAST GUIDANCE INDICATES
ADDITIONAL INTENSIFICATION IS LIKELY THROUGH TAU 48 AS
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS REMAIN FAVORABLE. AFTER TAU 48, GRADUAL
WEAKENING IS EXPECTED DUE TO COOLER SSTS AND STRONGER VWS.
DYNAMICAL MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS IN SURPRISINGLY GOOD AGREEMENT
THROUGH TAU 72, WITH SOME MINOR DIFFERENCES IN THE TIMING AND SPEED
OF THE NORTHERLY TURN.
C. IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST PERIOD, TY 07W IS FORECAST TO
CONTINUE TRACKING IN A CYCLONIC LOOP, AS A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE
BECOMES FIRMLY ENTRENCHED OVER SOUTHERN JAPAN, RESULTING IN A TURN
TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST. AS TY 07W BEGINS TO TRACK SOUTHWESTWARD, IT
WILL CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY WEAKEN AS IT BEGINS TO ENTRAIN DRY MID-
LEVEL AIR, AND ENCOUNTERS STRONGER VWS VALUES. DUE TO THE COMPLEX
INTERACTION BETWEEN THE 07W AND 09W, AND THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE
STEERING ENVIRONMENT, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC
FORECAST.//
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