2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#981 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:28 am

Ivanhater wrote:Everytime we get something on the global models, they are very small.

I thought most TC's that form from AEW's start out generally small?
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#982 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:29 am

Wave that GFS develops and ECMWF trys to is the one in West Africa right now.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#983 Postby gatorcane » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:34 am

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#984 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:34 am

Just SW of Guadeloupe.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#985 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:35 am

Weakening pretty rapidly going through the Caribbean
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#986 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:37 am

Ivanhater wrote:Weakening pretty rapidly going through the Caribbean

Have to think shear
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#987 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:45 am

12z GFS 240 hrs. Steering pattern looks to send this to the western Caribbean but it's weakening quickly.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#988 Postby gatorcane » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:47 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Weakening pretty rapidly going through the Caribbean

Have to think shear


Do we believe these shear forecasts that far out? Who knows what shear will be like that far out if this develops and heads into the Caribbean.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#989 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:58 am

Were's the deep Trof of the eastcoast most have bragging about? Plenty of ridging there
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#990 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:12 pm

SFLcane wrote:Were's the deep Trof of the eastcoast most have bragging about? Plenty of ridging there


Because it turns out the weather pattern over North America on July 30th is not representative of what it will look like in future weeks and months. Shocking I know.
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2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#991 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:13 pm

12z Canadian does not show the Carib storm the GFS shows.


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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#992 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:13 pm

@RyanMaue
GFS 12z develops a hurricane by Day 7 entering the Caribbean.
It's hurricane season so African easterly waves should all be watched.


 https://twitter.com/DaDaBuh/status/892069734539284481


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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#993 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:20 pm

Hmm. The GFS developing a TS/hurricane around August 6th after CCKW passage. It's almost like the thing we've been talking about for 10+ days.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#994 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:26 pm

@EricBlake12
Total reversal from the fcst a month ago over equatorial Atlantic. Believe @AndyHazelton @TropicalTidbits @philklotzbach talked about this


 https://twitter.com/EricBlake12/status/892072177197092864


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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#995 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:31 pm

cycloneye wrote:@EricBlake12
Total reversal from the fcst a month ago over equatorial Atlantic. Believe @AndyHazelton @TropicalTidbits @philklotzbach talked about this


 https://twitter.com/EricBlake12/status/892072177197092864




What does that mean for the ATL basin?


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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#996 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:40 pm

SFLcane wrote:WeatherEmperor it essentially means conditions more favorable.



Thanks for the update!
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#997 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:41 pm

WeatherEmperor it essentially means conditions more favorable.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#998 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:21 pm

given the very small size of the GFS storm, it is PROBABLY convective feedback. I suspect this as the Canadian dropped development in the MDR and the very small size likely means this is purely driven due to the convection in the model
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#999 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:30 pm

12z Euro at 144hrs

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1000 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:30 pm

Alyono wrote:given the very small size of the GFS storm, it is PROBABLY convective feedback. I suspect this as the Canadian dropped development in the MDR and the very small size likely means this is purely driven due to the convection in the model

Are you sure? The 12z Euro develops it too, same time and place.
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