ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1881 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:21 am

Alyono wrote:winds are lagging the pressure quite a bit. Has a monsoon trough p/w. HMON and HWRF seem to have been right about that


Yeah they have a lower pressure than you'd expect, though for the W.Gulf that doesn't seem to be an uncommon feature (also for BoC/W.Caribbean, they often seem to get that monsoon trough type situation.)
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1882 Postby pcolaman » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:21 am

Frank P wrote:Motion certainly looks NW now on sat loops now... Disclaimer: my unofficial, uneducated, premature speculation and opinion only... :eek:

If you look at the larger picture of Harvey, you can see how he is expanding not turning. It's an illusions
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1883 Postby MississippiWx » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:22 am

ROCK wrote:winds will catch up..not much I can see upstream to knock it down...unless it goes into ERCs before landfall...IDK...been awhile since 08 and 05 to see something like this in GOM.


Will be interesting to see if other models follow HWRF lead on track. It had a significant shift north and east up the TX coastline giving Harvey even more time over water.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1884 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:22 am

Well I would say near land there is always dry air to worry about, but until then, it’s got some very warm water and an upper level anticyclone...... so it could super be off to the races.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1885 Postby Frank P » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:25 am

pcolaman wrote:
Frank P wrote:Motion certainly looks NW now on sat loops now... Disclaimer: my unofficial, uneducated, premature speculation and opinion only... :eek:

If you look at the larger picture of Harvey, you can see how he is expanding not turning. It's an illusions

Could be, need more RECON baby!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1886 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:27 am

Frank P wrote:
pcolaman wrote:
Frank P wrote:Motion certainly looks NW now on sat loops now... Disclaimer: my unofficial, uneducated, premature speculation and opinion only... :eek:

If you look at the larger picture of Harvey, you can see how he is expanding not turning. It's an illusions

Could be, need more RECON baby!


Are they not in there Frank..or am I missing something..?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1887 Postby pcolaman » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:28 am

Frank P wrote:
pcolaman wrote:
Frank P wrote:Motion certainly looks NW now on sat loops now... Disclaimer: my unofficial, uneducated, premature speculation and opinion only... :eek:

If you look at the larger picture of Harvey, you can see how he is expanding not turning. It's an illusions

Could be, need more RECON baby!

In a few hours you won't need recon lol
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1888 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:28 am

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#1889 Postby AubreyStorm » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:29 am

:eek:

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1890 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:29 am

It's been awhile since we've seen a storm go bananas in the Gulf but before long... we're going to be saying... eye see Harvey.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1891 Postby lrak » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:30 am

tolakram wrote:
lrak wrote:HELP

Nobody is at work today I'm the only one. I wonder if I didn't get the message.


Stay safe Karl!


Thank you Sir.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1892 Postby Christiana » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:30 am

Can a pro-met or one of our experienced posters briefly explain what factors influence the overall size of a hurricane? I've always wondered this. The Gulf has had some great big storms which certainly increases surge damage. Yep, size matters. Sorry if this is an elementary question. :oops: Thanks in advance for any replies.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1893 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:30 am

I just pray that all in harm's way is getting out NOW!!!

Harvey is just bombing now! He may indeed. take a run at Cat 5. Extremely dangerous situation unfolding....
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1894 Postby Hurrilurker » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:31 am

It's really hard for me to believe what I'm seeing on sat is only 984mb...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1895 Postby pcolaman » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:33 am

The way I see it , almost no shear, high sst. Major on the way. Mho
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1896 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:33 am

I know we have recon but since Dvorak is a passion of mine worth posting....

24/1145 UTC 23.2N 93.4W T3.0/3.0 HARVEY -- Atlantic
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1897 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:33 am

lrak wrote:
tolakram wrote:
lrak wrote:HELP

Nobody is at work today I'm the only one. I wonder if I didn't get the message.


Stay safe Karl!


Thank you Sir.


Did you not get the text and email? We did. We said, nope..we are gone...no no ...stay safe Karl..hunker down and ride it out sir.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1898 Postby SouthDadeFish » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:33 am

Christiana wrote:Can a pro-met or one of our experienced posters briefly explain what factors influence the overall size of a hurricane? I've always wondered this. The Gulf has had some great big storms which certainly increases surge damage. Yep, size matters. Sorry if this is an elementary question. :oops: Thanks in advance for any replies.


This is still the subject of ongoing research. From what I've seen, a couple of the main factors are the size of the predecessor disturbance (for example, the African easterly wave), and the environmental moisture. Moist environments tend to support large TCs.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1899 Postby MississippiWx » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:34 am

Hurrilurker wrote:It's really hard for me to believe what I'm seeing on sat is only 984mb...


Structure, sea surface temps, and upper level environment are all very conducive for rapid deepening. Pressures will likely fall all day in Harvey. Only internal issues that we can't predict can keep him from strengthening up until landfall. Scary situation.
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