ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2721 Postby davidiowx » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:52 pm

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NDG wrote:Overall heading is still NW, is just taking a few wobbles to WNW at times then NNW at other times just like the last couple of hours.


and moving really slow now..


What do you think about the slower moment of Harvey, and the impacts on the coastline, while looking into Arizona/NM and seeing that trof heading eastward?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2722 Postby galaxy401 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:53 pm

With regards to shear, didn't Matthew rapidly intensify into a cat 5 in a moderate shear environment?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2723 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:54 pm

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Aric Dunn wrote:
NDG wrote:Overall heading is still NW, is just taking a few wobbles to WNW at times then NNW at other times just like the last couple of hours.


and moving really slow now..


What do you think about the slower moment of Harvey, and the impacts on the coastline, while looking into Arizona/NM and seeing that trof heading eastward?



its pretty much following the models and nhc forecast.. eitherway its not looking good..
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2724 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:55 pm

galaxy401 wrote:With regards to shear, didn't Matthew rapidly intensify into a cat 5 in a moderate shear environment?

There are different types of shear, in terms of height, vector, etc, and they effect storms in different ways. Some may decapitate the circulation, while others may actually aid in forming poleward outflow and "ventilating" the storm. Heh, fire pun. Anyway, a Promet can give you the specifics, but yes, shear can both aid and hinder intensification, depending on a variety of factors.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2725 Postby txwatcher91 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:57 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:With regards to shear, didn't Matthew rapidly intensify into a cat 5 in a moderate shear environment?

There are different types of shear, in terms of height, vector, etc, and they effect storms in different ways. Some may decapitate the circulation, while others may actually aid in forming poleward outflow and "ventilating" the storm. Heh, fire pun. Anyway, a Promet can give you the specifics, but yes, shear can both aid and hinder intensification, depending on a variety of factors.


A good example of shear is Gert, it was under 30-40kts of shear last week as it strengthened into a category 2 hurricane. In the case of Gert the shear was actually aiding in divergence and outflow so it helped intensify it over somewhat cool 26C waters.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2726 Postby weathernerdguy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:58 pm

It's basically like how right before a front/trough takes a system away, the system intensifies before getting sheared because of the poleward outflow
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2727 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:58 pm

Which model had faster movement, the GFS or the Euro?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2728 Postby txwatcher91 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:59 pm

Nice CDO is forming slowly, the southern half looks much better now and the northern half is beginning to see convection expand and wrap around. Rapid pressure drops should commence within a 2-3 hours now, imo.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2729 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:03 pm

txwatcher91 wrote:Nice CDO is forming slowly, the southern half looks much better now and the northern half is beginning to see convection expand and wrap around. Rapid pressure drops should commence within a 2-3 hours now, imo.

I agree, although I am no Promet. Make sure you all are watching this thing using GOES16 imagery, it is truly a [scary] sight to behold.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2730 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:07 pm

This should almost do it before the eye starts warming:

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2731 Postby CycloneGuru » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:08 pm

Link?
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#2732 Postby codygo » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:08 pm

Hi guys
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2733 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:09 pm

last hour or so there has definitely been a "turn" more to the nnw
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#2734 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:09 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2735 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:13 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2736 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:19 pm



The NASA goes 16 is much better.. you can also change all of the enhancements.
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https://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/goes/abi/ ... and14.html
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2737 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:20 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:The NASA goes 16 is much better.. you can also change all of the enhancements.


The automated refresh and ability to make gifs and access older data makes COD more useful to me, but whatever works for people.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2738 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:23 pm

Can't argue with 1min imagery though. It's like watching this thing strengthen in real time.

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?pa ... 1-13-200-1
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2739 Postby jdjaguar » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:25 pm


This works for me.

Thanks for the link!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2740 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:25 pm

RL3AO wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:The NASA goes 16 is much better.. you can also change all of the enhancements.


The automated refresh and ability to make gifs and access older data makes COD more useful to me, but whatever works for people.


fair enough. though the NASA is a new image every 5 min vs 15.. :P
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