ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2901 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:09 pm

Latest radar looks to me like a more impressive eyewall is developing...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2902 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:09 pm

One important thing even if you aren't evacuating but are in the path of this system, it is a good idea to take pictures of your house exterior and interior, with all furnishing and everything (make sure you have it time and date stamped) that way it is easier if you have to file a insurance claim. Plan on doing that tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2903 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:09 pm

Nederlander wrote:I'm not too familiar with Rick Knabb, but two observations... He seems very intelligent and knows his stuff... and he seems very uncomfortable on camera lol.. how long has he been with TWC and am I the only one making these obs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Knabb

He was director of the National Hurricane Center until earlier this year. Prior to that he also worked at TWC. Prior to that, he also worked at the NHC. (and I didn't even recall he worked at CPHC too.)
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#2904 Postby ForeverFlorida90s » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:10 pm

Nederlander wrote:
ForeverFlorida90s wrote:Something tells me this will become a category 5 just a eerie feeling looking at it develop


What is telling you this? Everything I have seen shows category 3 with a slight potential of category 4.. We are about 24 hours out now, and it would have to deepen significantly to reach cat 5.. still about 50+ mb away from being close to a cat 5.. That being said, a major hurricane is being forecast and it should be taken seriously. Just not sure it's got the time to get to a cat 5


Look at how quick hurricane Kenneth intensified last week in the Pacific or Hurricane Patricia, hurricane Wilma and hurricane Matthew rapid intensification in the warmest waters in the world means there's a chance this storm could surprise you and take off. Watching it on satellite looks impressive. Very similar to Hurricane king
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2905 Postby BZSTORM » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:11 pm

BZSTORM wrote:000
WTNT64 KNHC 250355
TCUAT4

Hurricane Harvey Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092017
1100 PM CDT Thu Aug 24 2017

...11 PM CDT POSITION ESTIMATE...

SUMMARY OF 1100 PM CDT...0400 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...25.4N 94.8W
ABOUT 180 MI...285 KM SSE OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS
ABOUT 210 MI...335 KM S OF PORT OCONNOR TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85 MPH...140 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 315 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...971 MB...28.32 INCHES

$$
Forecaster Zelinsky

should I delete this as seems in last 3 mins this has been removed
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2906 Postby HurricaneRyan » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:12 pm

Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?
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#2907 Postby bohaiboy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:14 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2908 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:14 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?


At times it takes a few hours for the winds to catch up to the dropping pressures, so right now it is currently 85 MPH, evidently not enough evidence to raise it to 90 or 95 yet, but it shouldn't be long before the winds start picking up and catching up to the pressure drops.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2909 Postby Exalt » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:14 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?


Winds can sometimes take a while to respond to drops in pressure.
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#2910 Postby ForeverFlorida90s » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:14 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?
the winds will be 100 mph by 3am
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#2911 Postby 1900hurricane » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:14 pm

Instantaneous DTs are clearly on the upswing.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2912 Postby SouthernMet » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:15 pm

Soonercane wrote:I thought the NHC mentioned dry air intrusion/weakening? The pressure is down but that could be temporary right? Trying to make up mind whether to stay or leave (in Victoria on central TX coast).


Is this a troll post or is this real? Victoria has been under a mandatory evacuation for 6 hours now. Everyone is suppose to be out of the city in 45 minutes. You need to leave.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2913 Postby BZSTORM » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:15 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?

it seems the 11pm update has been Removed the url no longer works so the data must be suspect.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2914 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:16 pm

ForeverFlorida90s wrote:
HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?
the winds will be 100 mph by 3am


In your opinion please. :)
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2915 Postby WxGuy1 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:16 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?


As far as I know, recon hasn't found anything higher. Note that, while there is a general (inverse) relationship between minimum central pressure and maximum wind speed, they need not change in tandem. In addition, changes in the maximum sustained wind speed tend to lag changes in the minimum central pressure. The double wind max associated with the outer band of convection has been evident in recon obs, which may be messing with the pressure gradient near the inner core as well.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2916 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:17 pm

bohaiboy wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:Another friendly reminder here to be cordial on the forums, particularly with our Pro Mets. As I stated earlier today, we greatly value their presence here.

Everyone might want to refamilarize themselves with #12 below.
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:uarrow: See the post directly above this one - our Pro Mets have an avatar tag that says so.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2917 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:17 pm

BZSTORM wrote:
HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?

it seems the 11pm update has been Removed the url no longer works so the data must be suspect.


It's there, 10PM central (11pm eastern)

10:00 PM CDT Thu Aug 24
Location: 25.2°N 94.6°W
Moving: NW at 10 mph
Min pressure: 973 mb
Max sustained: 85 mph
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2918 Postby La Sirena » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:17 pm

SouthernMet wrote:
Soonercane wrote:I thought the NHC mentioned dry air intrusion/weakening? The pressure is down but that could be temporary right? Trying to make up mind whether to stay or leave (in Victoria on central TX coast).


Is this a troll post or is this real? Victoria has been under a mandatory evacuation for 6 hours now. Everyone is suppose to be out of the city in 45 minutes. You need to leave.

Mandatory doesn't mean you have to leave....people can choose to stay. They're usually required to write all their pertinent info on themselves with a sharpie, you know, just in case.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2919 Postby wkwally » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:18 pm

Been a lot of panic buying here in Humble TX, Gas has been drained. Just a little breezy right now but I am sure that will change tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2920 Postby 1900hurricane » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:18 pm

I predict a marked pressure drop for the next center fix.
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