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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2841 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:07 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Nothing to back up what I'm to state so don't flame me, just my opinion. I think both the EURO and GFS are out to lunch. I just cannot fathom Harvey being around
the same general area a week from today. Not with the constantly changing weather patterns. Something is going to pick-up Harvey much sooner than Thursday and Friday.
Like I said just my opinion.


It sure is atypical for August. But the models are sort of coming around in one form or another as they sort of hinted at all week (with some diversions) that there would be a long slow resolution process for Harvey. Good luck up there man.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2842 Postby BRweather » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:09 pm

Lets all remember guys

This is days 5-7. There are still a TON of model runs left and you can bet they are still going to change.

Lets not all jump on one solution after 12 hours because in another 12-24 hours it might be completely different.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2843 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:20 pm

BRweather wrote:Lets all remember guys

This is days 5-7. There are still a TON of model runs left and you can bet they are still going to change.

Lets not all jump on one solution after 12 hours because in another 12-24 hours it might be completely different.


I'm sure that no one is 100% on the NHC track or any specific model. And certainly in the sub-tropics like the tropics, things can change on a dime. But working with the modeling you can pretty much be sure there are a good 3+ days of rain ahead for South Texas and maybe another 2 or 3 after that.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2844 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:59 pm

The euro had a run real similar to this, I believe two nights ago on the 0z, but then the next 5 runs showed an east track into the gulf then up into south LA. So yes it did side with the gfs temporarily but could do another 180 and all change come tonight's runs .
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2845 Postby stormreader » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:38 pm

tolakram wrote:I'm not sold on any model solution yet. I think it will get back over water, but then what is still up in the air IMO.

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Yes. The whole situation with the stall and the loop. Most assuredly, the hurricane will come to basic stop near landfall. But what will the nature of that "stop" be. Will it go inland 25 miles or so?? or will it wobble in circles right along the coast?? Sort of in and out, up and down.... I'm of a mind to think that Harvey will hug the coast with the stall doing this wobbling thing. In that case it still draws strength from the Gulf, and the weakening is much slower. After that the movement....looking more likely that it will move up into the E Texas mainland, but not a done deal. Still several days away, the relationship between the competing ridges could change.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2846 Postby utweather » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:10 pm

tolakram wrote:GFS run, now back and trapped with dissipation over TX.

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Wow, that is gonna be some serious flooding in south central texas overflowing back to the coast on that run. I was thinking there was a possibility of it going further nw towards west central Texas in no mans land and dying there but idk now.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2847 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:13 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:The euro had a run real similar to this, I believe two nights ago on the 0z, but then the next 5 runs showed an east track into the gulf then up into south LA. So yes it did side with the gfs temporarily but could do another 180 and all change come tonight's runs .


Model runs have been much more favorable for Louisiana today and QPF values have fallen considerably. We'll see if this holds.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2848 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:15 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:The euro had a run real similar to this, I believe two nights ago on the 0z, but then the next 5 runs showed an east track into the gulf then up into south LA. So yes it did side with the gfs temporarily but could do another 180 and all change come tonight's runs .


Model runs have been much more favorable for Louisiana today and QPF values have fallen considerably. We'll see if this holds.


Yeah there's been a decent westward shift in the guidance today.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2849 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:17 pm

They sure did. But unfortunately this looks like something that's not going to move out tomorrow, Sunday, or Monday so many more model flip flops to come :roll:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2850 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:27 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:They sure did. But unfortunately this looks like something that's not going to move out tomorrow, Sunday, or Monday so many more model flip flops to come :roll:


Usually as strong storms weaken, the feeder bands start wrapping out. While it appears many of us in LA but not in SWLA dodged a bullet, all it takes is one feeder band sitting over you N/S or NW/SE to get you.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2851 Postby randall27 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:38 pm

Hopefully it stays shifted west, we are basically stuck on a platform offshore south of Louisiana.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2852 Postby cajungal » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:45 pm

Way too early to say Louisiana dodged a bullet. Looking better for now for SE Louisiana. But not set in stone what Harvey will do after Texas. Could possibly still get in the gulf and come further east. I am still watching and got my can goods and water just in case.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2853 Postby HurricaneBrain » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:54 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2854 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:57 pm

cajungal wrote:Way too early to say Louisiana dodged a bullet. Looking better for now for SE Louisiana. But not set in stone what Harvey will do after Texas. Could possibly still get in the gulf and come further east. I am still watching and got my can goods and water just in case.


I didn't say we dodged a bullet just that we appear to have. 1) We aren't about to experience a landfalling major hurricane today; and 2) models have been showing less of a threat with time. That doesn't mean there won't be bad effects in SE/SC LA under specific conditions. The farther west the less likely one will get off without bigger effects. Y'all in Terrebonne are closer to the action, and certainly over toward Morgan City and Patterson they have had some nasty bands today already. Stay safe down that way. You're much closer to the heavier rainfall prognostications. 7 Day per GFS 12z

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 6&ypos=769
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2855 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:00 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:H90 Image


Almost where it's at now brain!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2856 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:11 pm

GFS 18Z has 0Z position where it is now.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2857 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:11 pm

GFS doesn't look like it wants to take it in much?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2858 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:12 pm

Run is In, back out, in and dissipate by 144 hours.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2859 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:13 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2860 Postby Garnetcat5 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:05 pm

Where can I find the models. Close to brazos river no one is saying evacuate but khou show brazos at Richmond flooding I'm freaking run to Albuquerque to my daughters or stay omg
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