ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[Frank P]

Although most of those structures weren't very well built, that is solid Cat.3 damage in that video probably the worst wind damage I have seen since Charley.

I agree on the 3 looking damage in that piece. But I think there was way more smashed up and mangled damage in Rita, Ike and then on the Mississippi Gulf Coast with Katrina where anything not concrete piled up miles inland. I've actually never seen an area as wiped clean as that.

The utter flattening you saw in Rita and Katrina was generally surge+wave damage. Water is incredibly powerful. Almost nothing built for land use can stand up to a big ocean wave.

You can build for wind, which is what I did as my house is rated for 140-150 mph.... but not for water, at least not at a reasonable price... so you just elevate your house as much as you can, but at least a foot above the greatest known surge for your area... then you can sleep at night during the hurricane season..

[sbcc]

Coast guard rescues 15 in CC.

Please, for the love of Pete, link or at least name a source. We had big problems with this last night.

Here is the direct link to more than 30 articles from various news stations in regards to the Coast guard rescues:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1696& ... Uxoz7c8l34

Courtesy of Google search.

Everyone knows how to search, even me. All I was asking is if you could post something like: "TV news says Coast Guard rescues 15 in CC". It helps to know the source isn't some Facebook rumor or the like. Thanks.

[GCANE]

Feeder band is intensifying quickly.
About to rock the Houston area.

[GCANE]

 https://twitter.com/McBeeWX/status/901593645974880256

[GCANE]

 https://twitter.com/AndrewWxCenter/status/901594171068305408

[Kingarabian]

Please, for the love of Pete, link or at least name a source. We had big problems with this last night.

Here is the direct link to more than 30 articles from various news stations in regards to the Coast guard rescues:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1696& ... Uxoz7c8l34

Courtesy of Google search.

Everyone knows how to search, even me. All I was asking is if you could post something like: "TV news says Coast Guard rescues 15 in CC". It helps to know the source isn't some Facebook rumor or the like. Thanks.

No problem, I understand what you mean. But I'm simply citing how I got my link to those news outlets.

[Kingarabian]

So far how has Harvey's evolution trended? Towards the GFS or Euro?

[jabman98]

Feeder band is intensifying quickly.
About to rock the Houston area.

I'm watching that. Not looking forward to it.

[Nimbus]

 https://twitter.com/AndrewWxCenter/status/901594171068305408

Those feeder bands seem to bring down the wind.
Then the power lines slap again and you have to reset the transformer.
The power crews are getting overworked.

[ace]

I'm confused: the NHC's track (as of 7 pm CST) is still pointing North towards Brenham after two updates, and the precipitation amounts through Thursday for most of Harris County (Houston) is 15 and perhaps 20 inches. Most models that I'm seeing and discussion on other sites *and the Houston\Galveston NWS* consistently mention Catastrophic Rainfall amounts that are significantly higher, and many mention a turn back to the Gulf. Why does the NHC keep turning Harvey straight North and not using the same language as Houston\Galveston NWS?

[Steve]

So far how has Harvey's evolution trended? Towards the GFS or Euro?

I'm not sure because the one thing I neglected to actually watch was which models were spinning Harvey in which direction.

[lisa0825]

I'm 20 miles North of Galveston and it's not bad here right now and I hope it stays that way! My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Rockport and surrounding areas and everyone getting hit with tornadoes!

Oh and I wish we knew for sure what Harvey was going to do next! Back out to the GOM? Or inland and rain himself out? I have a lot to learn with systems, so I just sit back and read and try to learn! Thank you all for posting updates and helpful hints!! You all rock!!

Hi Nikki - I am in Texas City. I heard someone on The Weather Channel say they expected another strong band to move through our area around 1am.

[Michele B]

The KIII-TV team seems to be very tense with one another, and unsure of which information they should/shouldn't share.

Hopefully the 8 fatalities was false information, shared too early.

I'm watching this now too, and it struck me as being the one of the saddest news broadcasts ever, and I'm in Eastern NC, where we've had plenty of hurricane coverage. I think there are just plain old worn out, though.

They definitely have some bad news to deliver, the male anchor almost did it a few minutes ago, but the female anchor stopped him wanting additional confirmation.

I saw that, too!

She was right, tho. She didn't want him putting numbers of deceased out there without confirmation, I suspect.

[Blinhart]

So far how has Harvey's evolution trended? Towards the GFS or Euro?

I'm not sure because the one thing I neglected to actually watch was which models were spinning Harvey in which direction.

Basically the two models are just not sure of what to do with Harvey. I think with this E/NE slow movement has to be worrisome for the NHC and TWC because none of the guidance showed this.

[Windspeed]

Feeder band is intensifying quickly.
About to rock the Houston area.

I'm watching that. Not looking forward to it.

This band is very intense.

[megsy]

Rain and lightning here in Katy/Cinco Ranch area. Not much wind which is surprising me. The rain band we are in looks to be expanding instead of just moving on.

[Nikki]

I'm 20 miles North of Galveston and it's not bad here right now and I hope it stays that way! My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Rockport and surrounding areas and everyone getting hit with tornadoes!

Oh and I wish we knew for sure what Harvey was going to do next! Back out to the GOM? Or inland and rain himself out? I have a lot to learn with systems, so I just sit back and read and try to learn! Thank you all for posting updates and helpful hints!! You all rock!!

Hi Nikki - I am in Texas City. I heard someone on The Weather Channel say they expected another strong band to move through our area around 1am.

Thank you so much for the heads up!

[codygo]

Hey anyone know where I can find the models of Harvey for my project

[Sciencerocks]

Hey anyone know where I can find the models of Harvey for my project

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/

You can go backwards with these

[Steve]

Hey anyone know where I can find the models of Harvey for my project

Yeah. NCEP Models has them. Tropical Tidbits. Penn State Tropical e-wall. Hope you get an A.