ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[RachelAnna]

Omg... my neighborhood on NW Houston is flooded. Pouring like crazy and only about 10 feet from my front door. Little cypress creek has made my front door it's new path.

I don't even know what to expect next!

[Nimbus]

I hope twc and the 24 hr news channels get those maps and post them on newscasts asap. Those people need to know what is going on around those reservoirs.

After seeing the pictures of Buffalo Bayou park, I don't think a controlled release is going to make that much difference. There is such a broad surface area already under water that even a huge volume won't raise that level much, especially since the rainfall rate has been intermittent instead of steady.

[Aric Dunn]

Omg... my neighborhood on NW Houston is flooded. Pouring like crazy and only about 10 feet from my front door. Little cypress creek has made my front door it's new path.

I don't even know what to expect next!

a lot more rain.. start moving your stuff if you cant evacuate. 2nd floor.

[Steve]

Radar looking bad for a lot of people.

http://www.weather.gov/hgx/

Those twin bands look to have combined just south of the city. I hope that doesn't spawn any tornadoes.

[sphelps8681]

Evening,

I have not been on this forum for a few days. Has anyone heard from Rock, he was getting pounded when the storm moved in.

I believe someone earlier said he was ok, maybe a couple of pages back.

I asked earlier if anyone has heard from him. Tried to post a pic of the Kemah Walmart which was totally flooded. Not sure how to post images. Hope he is ok!!

[Hurricane Andrew]

One of the many heroic police officers that have been undertaking many water rescues alongside firefighters, Air National Guard and the Coast Guard (story seems credible). Probably will have many more tonight...
https://www.facebook.com/texassheriffsd ... 19/?type=3

Beyond proud of the FR service through this storm. I am so honored to be able to be apart of this national family...I am underserving of serving among men and women like this.

[artist]

Listening to Coast Guard conference. It's obvious they have so many more rescues to do off of rooftops, etc.
They are bringing in even more assets, along with the many they already have.
And they have already done such a remarkable job.

[KC7NEC]

Listening to coast guard conference. It's obvious they have so many more rescues to do off of rooftops, etc.

And they have already done such a remarkable job.

Meanwhile, a Houston Fire guy in a conference just told everyone they don't need any more help.....

[artist]

Listening to coast guard conference. It's obvious they have so many more rescues to do off of rooftops, etc.

And they have already done such a remarkable job.

Meanwhile, a Houston Fire guy in a conference just told everyone they don't need any more help.....

Seriously!?! Makes you wonder. Ok, watching that conference, or the end of it, now. Denial or doesn't want the truth out there?

[TeamPlayersBlue]

Extremely heavy rain rates headed back toward Houston per radar, roughly 3-5" per hour.

out of curiousity, anyone know what the max '' per hour bands were last night in houston?

Not sure if answered, hobby airport had 9 1/2 inches in 90 minutes. Just an idea.

[birddogsc]

Listening to coast guard conference. It's obvious they have so many more rescues to do off of rooftops, etc.

And they have already done such a remarkable job.

Meanwhile, a Houston Fire guy in a conference just told everyone they don't need any more help.....

I'm betting he means more untrained help... There's got to be a need for more swift water teams and helos.

[SoupBone]

Omg... my neighborhood on NW Houston is flooded. Pouring like crazy and only about 10 feet from my front door. Little cypress creek has made my front door it's new path.

I don't even know what to expect next!

What neighborhood?

[KC7NEC]

Listening to coast guard conference. It's obvious they have so many more rescues to do off of rooftops, etc.

And they have already done such a remarkable job.

Meanwhile, a Houston Fire guy in a conference just told everyone they don't need any more help.....

Seriously!?! Makes you wonder.

yes, said that State and Feds have it under control and no longer need volunteer help or assets at this time.
Reminds me of watching live video of people trapped during Katrina during a news conference that was saying things were ok.

[cycloneye]

BULLETIN
Tropical Storm Harvey Advisory Number 31
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092017
1000 PM CDT Sun Aug 27 2017

...LIFE-THREATENING FLOODING CONTINUES OVER SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS...
...DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TRAVEL IN THE AFFECTED AREAS IF YOU ARE IN
A SAFE PLACE AND DO NOT DRIVE INTO FLOODED ROADWAYS...


SUMMARY OF 1000 PM CDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.8N 96.6W
ABOUT 20 MI...30 KM E OF VICTORIA TEXAS
ABOUT 30 MI...50 KM NNW OF PORT OCONNOR TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ESE OR 120 DEGREES AT 3 MPH...6 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB...29.53 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

The Tropical Storm Warning has been extended from Port O'Connor
southward to Mesquite Bay and from Sargent northeastward to High
Island.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------


Tropical Storm Harvey Discussion Number 31
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092017
1000 PM CDT Sun Aug 27 2017

The unprecedented flooding rainfall event continues to unfold over
much of southeastern Texas. Harvey has been moving slowly east-
southeastward during the past few hours, and heavy rainbands
continue to form over the northwestern Gulf and train inland over
much of the upper Texas coast and southwestern Louisiana. Storm
total rainfall amounts in the 20-27 inch range have been observed
across much of the Greater Houston area, and additional rainfall
amounts of 15 to 25 inches are expected over the next several days.
Rainfall totals could reach 50 inches in some locations, which would
be historic for that area.

There haven't been any observations of sustained 34-kt winds over
land for the past few hours, but the initial intensity remains 35
kt based on the assumption that higher winds are occuring over
water, likely in rainbands. The track guidance continues to show
Harvey moving just offshore of the Texas coast on Monday, then
turning northward and moving inland over northeastern Texas in 48 to
72 hours. All of the global models show some slight deepening of
the system after it moves over water, but given the lack of an inner
core, significant strengthening is not anticipated. The new NHC
track and intensity forecasts are similar to those from the previous
advisory.

Although the tropical storm warning has been expanded, and may need
to be extended eastward along the upper Texas and southwest
Louisiana coasts tomorrow morning, heavy rainfall and life-
threatening flooding continue to be the primary threats.

Key Messages:

1. Ongoing catastrophic and life-threatening flooding will continue
across southeastern Texas. Additional rainfall accumulations of 15
to 25 inches are expected across the upper Texas coast, with
isolated storm totals as high as 50 inches. Please heed the advice
of local officials. Do not attempt to travel if you are in a safe
place, and do not drive into flooded roadways. Refer to products
from your local National Weather Service office and the NOAA Weather
Prediction Center for more information on the flooding hazard. A
summary of rainfall totals compiled by the Weather Prediction Center
can be found at: www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/nfdscc1.html

2. The flood threat is spreading farther east into Louisiana.
Additional rainfall amounts of 15 to 25 inches are expected in
southwestern Louisiana, with rainfall amounts of 5 to 15 inches
expected in south-central Louisiana. Please heed the advice of
local officials and refer to products from your local National
Weather Service office and the NOAA Weather Prediction Center for
more information on the flooding hazard in these areas.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 28/0300Z 28.8N 96.6W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
12H 28/1200Z 28.6N 96.4W 35 KT 40 MPH...NEAR THE COAST
24H 29/0000Z 28.3N 96.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...OVER WATER
36H 29/1200Z 28.4N 95.7W 40 KT 45 MPH...OVER WATER
48H 30/0000Z 28.8N 95.3W 40 KT 45 MPH...OVER WATER
72H 31/0000Z 30.5N 94.8W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
96H 01/0000Z 32.3N 93.9W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
120H 02/0000Z 34.0N 92.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND

$$
Forecaster Brennan

[artist]

Houston Fire Dept is stopping boat rescues tonight due to dangers. I do know the Coast Guard said they will be working through the night.

[weathaguyry]

It's important that the storm 2k members in the affected area let us know that they are safe, however it's probably a better idea to be saving yourself from the extensive floods instead of going on the internet and surfing the forum.

[jasons2k]

Looks like Harvey is doing a counter-clockwise loop.

[artist]

It's important that the storm 2k members in the affected area let us know that they are safe, however it's probably a better idea to be saving yourself from the extensive floods instead of going on the internet and surfing the forum.

Sometimes I think people need the outlet to be able to think out loud here. I doubt any are risking their lives in an immediate situation. Let's be thoughtful here, not knowing what is actually happening.

[yzerfan]

Around 5pm Central Time, we saw a convoy of vehicles from Miami-Dade Search and Rescue heading west on I-10, flashers going, right around the Escambia Bay bridge near Pensacola, Florida. So mutual aid is coming in from quite far- it's normally about a 17 hour drive between those two cities.

[Aric Dunn]

Looks like Harvey is doing a counter-clockwise loop.

for now it looks like its the shallow convection migrating around. that return that looks a donut hole has on occasion roating return moving through at a perpendicular angler meaning the center is slightly south there.

wish there were a few more returns on the south side to verify.