ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[BRweather]

They definitely shifted it some west

Likely due to recon showing earlier the center had jogged north.

But it sure does look to be on the southeast move again. So weird

[stormlover2013]

Just saying what stormgeo said and what recon found..

[southwest southerner]

Bastardi was right on the money about Galveston. Storm surge + rain has completely flooded the Strand and other locations on the island today.

[Frank P]

They definitely shifted it some west

Likely due to recon showing earlier the center had jogged north.

But it sure does look to be on the southeast move again. So weird

well most likely if this continues expect a shift back east... who knows... unfreakingbelievable...

[wxman57]

That vortex which shot north this morning and that recon found as Harvey's center is now moving southward, circling around the bigger Harvey center. As it does, convection on the north side of Harvey is decreasing. Looks like just a temporary flare-up in intensity.

[SoupBone]

That vortex which shot north this morning and that recon found as Harvey's center is now moving southward, circling around the bigger Harvey center. As it does, convection on the north side of Harvey is decreasing. Looks like just a temporary flare-up in intensity.

Off Topic: Please use your winter controlling powers to get this thing out of here.

On Topic: Are the steering current as weak as they've been, or are you still confident in the track, up and out of here in the next day?

[Frank P]

well it still looks to me that the overall broad low center of Harvey looks like it is moving slowing to the SE... and getting close to being directly south of the TX/LA state line, as always my humble opinion.. I always defer to the pro mets.. but sometimes respectably disagree..

[Jagno]

Off Topic: Friends in Houston have reported seeing the sun for the first time in 5 days. Should we send help for their delusional condition.......................like people reportedly see water in the desert. LOL

[Frank P]

Dry air still pretty bad but not as bad as just 4 hours ago.....

[Michele B]

Here is an uplifting cute one from a couple days ago that is real

Looter!

Naw...

Take-out!

[KBBOCA]

Dry air still pretty bad but not as bad as just 4 hours ago.....

I know what you mean, but given the circumstances, I personally am CHEERING for dry air!

[Frank P]

Dry air still pretty bad but not as bad as just 4 hours ago.....

I know what you mean, but given the circumstances, I personally am CHEERING for dry air!

as we all are.. enough already... I'm about to say NO MASS...

[wxman57]

well it still looks to me that the overall broad low center of Harvey looks like it is moving slowing to the SE... and getting close to being directly south of the TX/LA state line, as always my humble opinion.. I always defer to the pro mets.. but sometimes respectably disagree..

General movement of the big open low center still appears to be NE. Vortex rotating SE makes it look like the whole thing is moving that way.

[Frank P]

well it still looks to me that the overall broad low center of Harvey looks like it is moving slowing to the SE... and getting close to being directly south of the TX/LA state line, as always my humble opinion.. I always defer to the pro mets.. but sometimes respectably disagree..

General movement of the big open low center still appears to be NE. Vortex rotating SE makes it look like the whole thing is moving that way.

thanks for the clarification...

[KBBOCA]

Here's a VERY helpful write up at Snopes.com about the confusion all over social media regarding the new Texas law going into effect on Sept 1 regarding property insurance claims.

http://www.snopes.com/harvey-texas-insurance/

here's an excerpt:

Texas House Bill 1774 does indeed introduce changes to the way property damage insurance claims are dealt with in the state, but only in the event of a litigated dispute over a claim. Most insurance claims are settled out of court, and so the potential benefit in filing a claim before 1 September 2017 (which is itself marginal) will likely not apply in most cases.

The real benefit would be in filing a lawsuit before 1 September, but for obvious practical reasons, it is extremely unlikely that someone whose home has been destroyed or extensively damaged days earlier, would be in a position to do this.

The law was signed by Governor Greg Abbott on 26 May 2017.

What the law changes

The first major provision in the law is that an individual or business filing a lawsuit in relation to a weather-related property damage insurance claim (including flood damage) will have to give their insurance company 61 days’ notice before initiating litigation.

According to an analysis published by the independent House Research Organization in the Texas House of Representatives:

[The law] would require an insured [person] making a claim against an insurer or agent relating to damage to real property caused by an earthquake, earth tremor, wildfire, flood, tornado, lightning, hurricane, hail, wind, snowstorm, or rainstorm to provide written notice to the insurer at least 61 days before filing the claim. This pre-suit notice would have to provide a statement of the acts giving rise to the claim, the specific amount alleged to be owed, and amount of reasonable and necessary attorney’s fees already incurred by the claimant. This notice would be admissible as evidence in a civil action or alternative dispute resolution.

The second major provision in HB 1774 is that it imposes a claim recovery threshold in order for individuals to recover the full amount of their attorney’s fees, if they decide to go to court. If, in the event of a lawsuit, a jury decides to award a plaintiff 80 percent or more of the amount they are claiming, then all that individual’s attorney’s fees will be covered. If a jury decides to award 20 percent or less, none of their attorney’s fees are covered:

The bill would require the court to award the full amount of reasonable and necessary attorney’s fees if the amount to be awarded in the judgment divided by the amount alleged to be owed was at least 0.8, not limited by statute, and recoverable. The court would be prohibited from awarding attorney’s fees if this fraction was less than 0.2, or if the claimant failed to provide pre-suit notice.

We consulted two experts on insurance: Etti Baranoff, an associate professor of finance at Virginia Commonwealth University and a former regulator at the Texas Department of Insurance, and Dalit Baranoff, a historian of insurance policy who runs the Risks and Consequences blog.

They told us the bill is designed to discourage consumers from taking a claim to court and filing exaggerated claims, but otherwise doesn’t change the process of settling claims out of court.

HB 1774 should not have any effect on homeowners’ ability to recover claims from insurers. The law has nothing to do with payment of insurance claims. It only applies if a lawsuit is involved. The vast majority of insurance claims will be settled without any dispute. Where it does come into play, is if a policyholder disagrees with an insurance settlement, in which case litigation is still an option.

This is where the 61-day waiting period comes into play, which the Baranoffs say is “meant to encourage mediation and out-of-court settlement”, and the 80/20 rule in the new law will make it harder for people to recoup their legal costs if they decide to sue. The reasoning behind this, according to the Baranoffs, is to discourage inflated or exaggerated claims, since claimants will be less likely to be awarded 80 percent or more of a relatively large claim and are therefore more likely to have to pay some attorney’s fees if they do.

Indeed, the stated purpose of HB 1774 was to stop a historic increase in the number of hailstorm-related property damage insurance claims, something the bill’s sponsor State Representative Greg Bonnen called “the worst lawsuit abuse we have in the state” (Relevant portion begins at 3:50).

[KatDaddy]

Harvey has been exhausting. Thankfully we did not flood nor loose power however epic flooding is ongoing a mile from our house in W League City. Current total as of 3:40PM is 53.91" with 19.63" on Sunday. Still getting some light rain but now getting gusts up to TS force as Harvey tries on last attempt before moving into SW LA.

[Frank P]

well it still looks to me that the overall broad low center of Harvey looks like it is moving slowing to the SE... and getting close to being directly south of the TX/LA state line, as always my humble opinion.. I always defer to the pro mets.. but sometimes respectably disagree..

General movement of the big open low center still appears to be NE. Vortex rotating SE makes it look like the whole thing is moving that way.

thanks for the clarification...

but still can't see this going inland at the TX'LA state line... would bet it would shift eastward for landfall... but just my opinion only..

[nutkin517]

Power went out at about 3. Been raining hard and windy since then. Water was coming up to my house fast but I think the ditch was clogged because it started flowing again and went back down fast even with it still pouring.

[KBBOCA]

From 1 hour ago, a Civil Emergency message posted by NWSHouston regarding evacuation orders in certain neighborhoods:
(Inverness Forest subdivision)
(Northgate Crossing Utility area / Northwood Pines)

 https://twitter.com/NWSHouston/status/902643335109763074

[tolakram]

Beaumont and points east and south really getting hammered today.

saved loop