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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#541 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:40 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#542 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:42 am

48 Hours...Almost identical location as 06z

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#543 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:42 am

@TropicalTidbits
GFS vortex-averaged sounding for #Irma this evening shows favorable environment. Essentially no shear, anomalously high moisture content.


 https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/902919205363871744


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#544 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:47 am

60 Hours...Maybe a little faster forward speed than 06z

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#545 Postby forecasterjack » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:48 am

Just catching up... Based on WPAC pattern, I think this could recurve, but not until after 70W once it interacts with E US trough. Too early to figure out all the little shortwaves in that trough that will determine eventual track. But once you're in the 75-80W range, you're one well placed vortmax away from a negatively tilted trough and, well, trouble. Again, WAY too early to speculate on shortwave behavior. For now, ensembles are locked and loaded with WNW then WSW then WNW motion. After that, all bets are off. We'll see what 12Z guidance does, but until I see a strong and consistent weakening of the CATL ridge on ensemble (not OP) guidance, I think this is very dangerous for the US.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#546 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:48 am

Much stronger through HR60...19mb drop compared to 06Z.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#547 Postby meriland29 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:50 am

Looks like a typical fish with a great opening to recurve out to ssea.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#548 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:51 am

Also somewhat S and W thru HR66...gotta go to class.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#549 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:54 am

meriland29 wrote:Looks like a typical fish with a great opening to recurve out to ssea.

Not yet. Look at that steering
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#550 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:54 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#551 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:00 am

SW to WSW motion at hour 96

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#552 Postby sma10 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:00 am

Key upper trough in Central Atlantic slightly further West than 6Z ... but still much closer to Irma than what Euro depicts
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#553 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:01 am

GFS is trending towards the Euro through hour 96 with a MUCH stronger HP to the north building in and more WSW movement, maybe even SW.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#554 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:01 am

Lot's of ridging out there

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#555 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:03 am

Of note...The eastward progression of the recurving WPAC typhoon is not near as fast as 06z. It has it almost 4 degrees further west on this run.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#556 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:04 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#557 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:06 am

Is that an ULL to the NW of Irma? If so wouldn't that likely help to weaken the ridge allowing for a escape route OTS?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#558 Postby forecasterjack » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:07 am

TheStormExpert wrote:Is that an ULL to the NW of Irma? If so wouldn't that likely help to weaken the ridge allowing for a escape route OTS?

It could weaken the ridge a little bit, but it would need to weaken it a lot more for Irma to notice. That's a big ridge.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#559 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:08 am

Location almost identical to 06z at 120 hours.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#560 Postby sma10 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:08 am

TheStormExpert wrote:Is that an ULL to the NW of Irma? If so wouldn't that likely help to weaken the ridge allowing for a escape route OTS?


That Upper trough is the key player in this entire game.

Euro has it much further west than GFS
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