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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2501 Postby SouthFLTropics » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:51 pm

HMON is 1/2 a degree NW through 66 hours

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2502 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:51 pm

That's quite the anticyclonic wave break on that 18Z GFS run. 500 mb heights in the Canadian Maritimes push up to about 600 dam with a big time ridge bridge over the cutoff trough.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2503 Postby ROCK » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:52 pm

Steve wrote:Landfall is is 8 1/2 days from 18z today which means the storm hits NYC Sunday morning at 1am. 8 1/2 days is a long time in the model world but inside of model "fantasy land". And I'd caution everyone that the GFS and European haven't exactly been good in the mid-range which is what we'll be in throughout the labor day weekend. Unless all tracks come into agreement, don't expect to see the real solution, unless one accidentally hits it, before next Tuesday when we get inside of 5 days.


IDK Steve the EURO was pretty good with Harv around 3-4 days. It was the first model to throw out the wacky mid TX coast hit then bounced back to MX then back up the coast. Probably the reason the NHC is weighing so heavily on it this year. By far it has out performed the GFS as we all know...I also like the UKMET model this year...Not bad squirrely has the others. JMO
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2504 Postby Frank P » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:53 pm

Honestly right now I am favoring one of the more consistent models.. the SIM.... often referred to as the Sports Illustrated Model...
S FL to Canada to England might end up getting this storm... heck why not all.. crazy days ahead... however, the Gulf is closed for business for at least the next two weeks... Nothing can go it there as I find that scenario most "Offensive" :spam:
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2505 Postby Spacecoast » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:53 pm

Is that (soon to be) Jose hitting Miami hour @360?

It is interesting how Jose seems to disappear on some model runs.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2506 Postby stormreader » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:54 pm

ROCK wrote:
Steve wrote:Landfall is is 8 1/2 days from 18z today which means the storm hits NYC Sunday morning at 1am. 8 1/2 days is a long time in the model world but inside of model "fantasy land". And I'd caution everyone that the GFS and European haven't exactly been good in the mid-range which is what we'll be in throughout the labor day weekend. Unless all tracks come into agreement, don't expect to see the real solution, unless one accidentally hits it, before next Tuesday when we get inside of 5 days.


IDK Steve the EURO was pretty good with Harv around 3-4 days. It was the first model to throw out the wacky mid TX coast hit then bounced back to MX then back up the coast. Probably the reason the NHC is weighing so heavily on it this year. By far it has out performed the GFS as we all know...I also like the UKMET model this year...Not bad squirrely has the others. JMO

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2507 Postby storm4u » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:56 pm

Sandy was 946mb so close


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AxaltaRacing24 wrote:Image

Pretty unrealistic on strength there. No way it will hold that kind of pressure that far north.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2508 Postby Ntxw » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:59 pm

storm4u wrote:Sandy was 946mb so close


otowntiger wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:http://i.imgur.com/zMp3EuU.png

Pretty unrealistic on strength there. No way it will hold that kind of pressure that far north.


Even the Euro which is usually the more reserved in terms of pressures of TCs was down to 920 east of Florida. While GFS depiction may not come to fruition, something in the guidance suggest pressures will be quite low.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2509 Postby ROCK » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:00 pm

Frank P wrote:Honestly right now I am favoring one of the more consistent models.. the SIM.... often referred to as the Sports Illustrated Model...
S FL to Canada to England might end up getting this storm... heck why not all.. crazy days ahead... however, the Gulf is closed for business for at least the next two weeks... Nothing can go it there as I find that scenario most "Offensive" :spam:



agree I could use a break around here...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2510 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:02 pm

ROCK wrote:
Steve wrote:Landfall is is 8 1/2 days from 18z today which means the storm hits NYC Sunday morning at 1am. 8 1/2 days is a long time in the model world but inside of model "fantasy land". And I'd caution everyone that the GFS and European haven't exactly been good in the mid-range which is what we'll be in throughout the labor day weekend. Unless all tracks come into agreement, don't expect to see the real solution, unless one accidentally hits it, before next Tuesday when we get inside of 5 days.


IDK Steve the EURO was pretty good with Harv around 3-4 days. It was the first model to throw out the wacky mid TX coast hit then bounced back to MX then back up the coast. Probably the reason the NHC is weighing so heavily on it this year. By far it has out performed the GFS as we all know...I also like the UKMET model this year...Not bad squirrely has the others. JMO


3-4 days is next Wednesday and Thursday. That's what I said ("..don't expect to see the solution...before Tuesday" which is 5 days). Euro lost it for a while as did the GFS if you remember back to the 5-6 day period. It was to emerge off the Yucatan as a ripple in the isobars and then 92L was a ripple on the way up toward Tallahassee.

As for the 2 day verifications for 2017 posted about 3 pages back, I'm assuming "ECMF" is ECMWF with only 4 characters. CMC is outperforming everything but the NHC and some other model that begins with a C that I don't know what it is (possibly something related to COAMPS or something).
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2511 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:04 pm

The one thing that I am concerned about is that no matter how powerful the windshield wiping is, we still have our 3 best models showing landfalls, which is the last thing this country needs.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2512 Postby ColdMiser123 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:19 pm

The GEFS have a ridiculous signal into Florida at 18z.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2513 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:20 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:The GEFS have a ridiculous signal into Florida at 18z.


Can you post image?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2514 Postby ColdMiser123 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:22 pm

Blown Away wrote:
ColdMiser123 wrote:The GEFS have a ridiculous signal into Florida at 18z.


Can you post image?


Had to do a double take when I first ran through this on WSI.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2515 Postby ColdMiser123 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:23 pm

18z is posted above, and should be out soon on Tidbits.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2516 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:24 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
ColdMiser123 wrote:The GEFS have a ridiculous signal into Florida at 18z.


Can you post image?


Had to do a double take when I first ran through this on WSI.

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That's cruel
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2517 Postby RL3AO » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:24 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:
RL3AO wrote:


This is 12z. 18z is posted above, and should be out soon on Tidbits.


Oops. Didn't look at that. Assumed it was out since others were talking about it.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2518 Postby RL3AO » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:25 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2519 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:25 pm

All 21 members show a us hit. A 100% agreement...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2520 Postby SouthFLTropics » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:28 pm

HMON at 120 Hours...About 1/2 a degree north

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