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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3181 Postby NJWxHurricane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:49 pm

might slingshot nnw
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3182 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:50 pm

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 212&fh=216

Gonna be close. That high is closing, but Irma in that position still has a shot to hook east or loop. That's a shock to me. 1 day later and the door is slammed shut.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3183 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:50 pm

Crazy, crazy, crazy flip-flop this run by Euro. Not too characteristic of this model. We'll see....
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3184 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:50 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:CMC Ensembles

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Are they converging towards FL?


No, if anything they are less clustered than 00z

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3185 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:51 pm

OTS looks like?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3186 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:51 pm

sma10 wrote:Crazy, crazy, crazy flip-flop this run by Euro. Not too characteristic of this model. We'll see....


first 4 days its more south and west.. after is when it changes.. the models just do not know what to do with the trough yet.. way to early to tell.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3187 Postby M3gaMatch » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:51 pm

Alyono wrote:EC does NOT build a ridge to the NE. May allow this to go to Canada instead of the USA


ridge is there...but second trough below it is blocking it from having any steering influence....at least until it reaches the far NE.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3188 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:51 pm

There you have it models NOW including the ECMWF showing a recurve hoping this trend continues..
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3189 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:52 pm

Feeling better here in the Wilmington, NC area. GFS had me worried some, but I trust ECMWF more in this case. It is still early, but I like the way the ECMWF is trending. 8-)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3190 Postby NJWxHurricane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:52 pm

massive cave to the GFS this run imo
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3191 Postby galaxy401 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:53 pm

The Euro has no idea what it wants to do with Irma in the last couple days. Even if this storm ends up recurving, I won't say this will be a huge win for the model.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3192 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:53 pm

Lots of scenarios still on the table. A monster cane in or around the Bahamas on a 180 hour plus model is still to close for comfort. The final chapter of this book is a long way off.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3193 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:53 pm

SFLcane wrote:There you have it models NOW including the ECMWF showing a recurve hoping this trend continues..

That was just one run, but breathing a bit more now.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3194 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:53 pm

NJWxHurricane wrote:massive cave to the GFS this run imo

The models just don't know what to do with the trough yet and they will not until this nears the islands.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3195 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:54 pm

Finally! An out to sea run.. Figured this was coming. It was just a matter of time
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3196 Postby wxmann_91 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:54 pm

sma10 wrote:Crazy, crazy, crazy flip-flop this run by Euro. Not too characteristic of this model. We'll see....

It's Day 8+ lol... would be more unusual if it did not flip-flip.

Inside Day 7 the models have been fairly consistent in their solutions.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3197 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:54 pm

just have to wait a few more days.. once it start turning after this wsw to SW motion completes. so we wait some more :)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3198 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:55 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
sma10 wrote:Crazy, crazy, crazy flip-flop this run by Euro. Not too characteristic of this model. We'll see....

It's Day 8+ lol... would be more unusual if it did not flip-flip.

Inside Day 7 the models have been fairly consistent in their solutions.


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3199 Postby M3gaMatch » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:55 pm

honestly this still has a ways to go. I don't know about in the US but down here models handle these troughs / trough extensions pretty terribly in the medium- long term.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3200 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:55 pm

Something to remember...RL3AO pointed out that statistics show that 5 to 7 day forecasts confidence is lower when a typhoon is recurving out of the WPAC. I'm not sure where he got that information from...just something he posted a few days ago.
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