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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3421 Postby weathaguyry » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:33 pm

Happy Pelican wrote:
weathaguyry wrote:Looks like it will head into Chesapeake Bay at 204 hours


This puts Jersey Shore in the Northeast quadrant. We'll be crushed by the wind and surge. Damn. I literally just finished rebuilding from Sandy this past June. :double:


Yep, will certainly wreck a lot of houses here on coastal LI too
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3422 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:34 pm

Right up the Chesapeake and into DC...On 9/11 no less.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3423 Postby txwatcher91 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:34 pm

GFS shifted west about 75 miles and has the western eyewall grazing the Outer Banks as a powerful category 5. Tropical storm force winds well inland too and across a large area, the storm surge would be very destructive.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3424 Postby WHYB630 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:34 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:Euro vs GFS

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actually, not much difference (for something day8+)...
We hope she goes OTS but it is too early to say, IMO
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3425 Postby GCANE » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:35 pm

Thats a 100-mile wide F4 tornado.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3426 Postby Cunxi Huang » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:35 pm

Oh ma goodness, that's 878 am i wrong

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3427 Postby Bocadude85 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:35 pm

NJWxHurricane wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:So another southwest shift with the GFS...

it bounces around


A few days ago the GFS was in Nova Scotia, today's 18Z run is into Virginia. The trend has been southwest.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3428 Postby Frank P » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:36 pm

that would be the most costly hurricane of all times... 300 billion plus... better hope that does not come to fruition... scary... but still have a bunch more days for the models to stress the hell outta us... glad I restocked my Crown supply... oh, and glad I'm on the MS coast right now too... don't want to build another house.. :)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3429 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:36 pm

if the GFS is any slower at the 00z run with IRMA it may end up into SC to NC .. assuming it keeps the same timing of the trough..
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3430 Postby cajungal » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:37 pm

Couldn't even imagine if she was in the gulf heading towards the Louisiana coast at that pressure.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3431 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:37 pm

This 18Z GFS run would be an absolute catastrophe for the entire Mid Atlantic and Northeast U.S. potentially if the 18Z GFS run shown comes anywhere close to fruition. This run was insane! WOW!

Plus do not forget how close Irma gets to PR on this run as well.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3432 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:37 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:if the GFS is any slower at the 00z run with IRMA it may end up into SC to NC .. assuming it keeps the same timing of the trough..


Let us hope that the ECMWF is on to something. With all the rain we have been getting in SE NC we do not need a cat 4 or 5.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3433 Postby brghteys1216 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:37 pm

What would happen should there be no trough at all, or a very week one? Would it continue west instead of turning north toward Virginia?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3434 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:39 pm

I still think these models are too far north with this. Not by much but still too far north.

Here's why:

1.) I don't think (or hope) that Irma will be near as powerful in the Bahamian vicinity as the models are showing. If that is the case then it shouldn't be steered north as soon as it is showing.
2.) I don't think Irma will move as fast as some of the models are showing.
3.) IMHO I feel the end game is an approach to the Florida coastline with a turn to the north and a strike near the SC/NC line. I'm sticking with my Floyd analog.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3435 Postby Ken711 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:41 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:I still think these models are too far north with this. Not by much but still too far north.

Here's why:

1.) I don't think (or hope) that Irma will be near as powerful in the Bahamian vicinity as the models are showing. If that is the case then it shouldn't be steered north as soon as it is showing.
2.) I don't think Irma will move as fast as some of the models are showing.
3.) IMHO I feel the end game is an approach to the Florida coastline with a turn to the north and a strike near the SC/NC line. I'm sticking with my Floyd analog.


Further south could be an Isabel track which I still believe is possible but I hope not.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3436 Postby Nimbus » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:42 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:if the GFS is any slower at the 00z run with IRMA it may end up into SC to NC .. assuming it keeps the same timing of the trough..


So you think slower and deeper Irma pumps the ridge?

What do you think the chances are that a deep trough splits and ridging builds through early?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3437 Postby WHYB630 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:42 pm

The track might happen, but how could a hurricane be that strong (like <880hPa) when it approaches the US continent? Shouldn't it suck the dry air and weaken a bit before it's getting close?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3438 Postby weathaguyry » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:42 pm

It will be interesting to see what the 0z Euro shows tonight...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3439 Postby weathaguyry » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:43 pm

WHYB630 wrote:The track might happen, but how could a hurricane be that strong (like <880hPa) when it approaches the US continent? Shouldn't it suck the dry air and weaken a bit before it's getting close?


It makes me wonder if it could turn hybrid before landfall, like Sandy
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3440 Postby Ken711 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:43 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:if the GFS is any slower at the 00z run with IRMA it may end up into SC to NC .. assuming it keeps the same timing of the trough..


Let us hope that the ECMWF is on to something. With all the rain we have been getting in SE NC we do not need a cat 4 or 5.


I agree. But, I would bet it moves West the next run.
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