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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3561 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:53 pm

00Z guidance:

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3562 Postby tgenius » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:57 pm

gatorcane wrote:00Z guidance:

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Well the SFWM plots look shifted east and north so that's a positive given current models. Let's hope it keeps going and recurring away from CONUS.

By the way, gators offense is offensive. So disappointing!
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3563 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:03 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3564 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:04 pm

tgenius wrote:
gatorcane wrote:00Z guidance:

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Well the SFWM plots look shifted east and north so that's a positive given current models. Let's hope it keeps going and recurring away from CONUS.

By the way, gators offense is offensive. So disappointing!

I think it shifted west, there's still landfall in the Carolinas.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3565 Postby weathaguyry » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:06 pm

Compared to 18z, the intensity guide looks a little bullish, with lots of models taking it to a cat 4

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3566 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:06 pm

tgenius wrote:
gatorcane wrote:00Z guidance:

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Well the SFWM plots look shifted east and north so that's a positive given current models. Let's hope it keeps going and recurring away from CONUS.

By the way, gators offense is offensive. So disappointing!


East ? Everything is going west..

Also great way to always see how back and forth the models are and why past 3 days you just looks at as a possibility..
http://flhurricane.com/modelanimator.ph ... 7&title=11
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3567 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:07 pm

weathaguyry wrote:Compared to 18z, the intensity guide looks a little bullish, with lots of models taking it to a cat 4

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You can tell on sat imagery that this will not be struggling for much longer.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3568 Postby Ken711 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:08 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
tgenius wrote:
gatorcane wrote:00Z guidance:

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Well the SFWM plots look shifted east and north so that's a positive given current models. Let's hope it keeps going and recurring away from CONUS.

By the way, gators offense is offensive. So disappointing!

I think it shifted west, there's still landfall in the Carolinas.


Yes. At least for these plots it would appear GOM and FL could be looking better. Not so much for the Carolinas and Mid-Atlantic.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3569 Postby meriland29 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:11 pm

I wonder if 00z Euro will keep it's trend or be more in agreement with 18z GFS, which has been very persistent at hitting that area of the US for quite some time now..
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3570 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:12 pm

After looking at Matthew's model thread, this is why you don't sound all clear bells 8-11 days out. Look at this agreement 2-4 days out. We all know what happened after with the shifts. Nothing is set in stone yet.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3571 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:17 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:After looking at Matthew's model thread, this is why you don't sound all clear bells 8-11 days out. Look at this agreement 2-4 days out. We all know what happened after with the shifts.
[i mg]https://i.imgur.com/0V6fagg.jpg[/img]


This is also a great example of why we want everyone to copy images to a hosting site first, so we don't lose these images. :)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3572 Postby JPmia » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:19 pm



In that Twitter thread they're talking winds of 200mph.. Are we seeing the same intensity GFS and other models' forecasting issue with the models that we saw with the Typhoon that struck Japan a few weeks back? (I don't remember the name of the Typhoon)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3573 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:20 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:After looking at Matthew's model thread, this is why you don't sound all clear bells 8-11 days out. Look at this agreement 2-4 days out. We all know what happened after with the shifts. Nothing is set in stone yet.
[i mg]https://i.imgur.com/0V6fagg.jpg[/img]


Also,

UKmet just about nailed it.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3574 Postby otowntiger » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:22 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:After looking at Matthew's model thread, this is why you don't sound all clear bells 8-11 days out. Look at this agreement 2-4 days out. We all know what happened after with the shifts. Nothing is set in stone yet.
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Good find and good point. Still got a ways to go to be certain of the track.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3575 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:23 pm

tolakram wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:After looking at Matthew's model thread, this is why you don't sound all clear bells 8-11 days out. Look at this agreement 2-4 days out. We all know what happened after with the shifts. Nothing is set in stone yet.
[i mg]https://i.imgur.com/0V6fagg.jpg[/img]


Also,

UKmet just about nailed it.

It was much closer than the rest of the globals at that time. Was almost a foreshadowing of what the rest of that day would bring. (Now back to Irma :lol: )
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3576 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:25 pm

Aric makes a good point models are shifting west..

http://flhurricane.com/modelanimator.ph ... 7&title=11
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3577 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:25 pm

right now looks like ukmet is pointing towards carolinas
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3578 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:26 pm

Ken711 wrote:
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tgenius wrote:
Well the SFWM plots look shifted east and north so that's a positive given current models. Let's hope it keeps going and recurring away from CONUS.

By the way, gators offense is offensive. So disappointing!

I think it shifted west, there's still landfall in the Carolinas.


Yes. At least for these plots it would appear GOM and FL could be looking better. Not so much for the Carolinas and Mid-Atlantic.

I still believe there's an equal chance for FL but not so much the GOM.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3579 Postby ronjon » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:27 pm

Look at the 18z HWRF-P....scary run making a beeline toward south florida. But we know there's a trough in the long range after 5 days so whew! I think.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=hwrf-p&region=11L&pkg=mslp_pcpn_frzn&runtime=2017090218&fh=6&xpos=0&ypos=0
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3580 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:31 pm

Ken711 wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
tgenius wrote:
Well the SFWM plots look shifted east and north so that's a positive given current models. Let's hope it keeps going and recurring away from CONUS.

By the way, gators offense is offensive. So disappointing!

I think it shifted west, there's still landfall in the Carolinas.


Yes. At least for these plots it would appear GOM and FL could be looking better. Not so much for the Carolinas and Mid-Atlantic.


Aren't most of the models in this suite ... uhmm ... less than robust?
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