2017 Cyclones Retirement: New names are: Harold / Idalia / Margot / Nigel
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2017 Cyclones Retirement: New names are: Harold / Idalia / Margot / Nigel
Normally this thread isn't made until later in the season, but...
At this point, it's pretty much a guarantee Harvey will be retired. We'll see what names (if any) join it later in the season, but we at least have to find a new male H name.
At this point, it's pretty much a guarantee Harvey will be retired. We'll see what names (if any) join it later in the season, but we at least have to find a new male H name.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
Harvey has only done half as much as he's going to, at the most. Easily getting retired.
Otherwise, I don't see any evidence of any other names being deserving of retirement. Lots of time to go though, including all of September.
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Otherwise, I don't see any evidence of any other names being deserving of retirement. Lots of time to go though, including all of September.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
Andrew92 wrote:Harvey has only done half as much as he's going to, at the most. Easily getting retired.
Otherwise, I don't see any evidence of any other names being deserving of retirement. Lots of time to go though, including all of September.
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Don't forget October which has produced noteworthy storms such as Mitch, Matthew, Wilma, etc. I feel this season may produce a classic Western Caribbean monster similar to Wilma in terms of time of year. The season is only half way over and there are still two more of the three peak months to go!
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
I'm at least 99.9% percent sure that Harvey will be retired next spring. Hopefully this is the only name that gets retired or even considered for retirement this season.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
Andrew92 wrote:Harvey has only done half as much as he's going to, at the most. Easily getting retired.
Otherwise, I don't see any evidence of any other names being deserving of retirement. Lots of time to go though, including all of September.
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This list is already nearly half retired - yet many of the middle letter names are still originals as well (Maria through Philippe, all potential peak to semi-late season storms at this rate). The original names when it was introduced in 1981:
Arlene - still active
Bret - still active
Cindy - still active
Dennis - retired 2005 (Don)
Emily - still active
Floyd - retired 1999 (Franklin)
Gert - still active
Harvey - presumably retired 2017 (TBA)
Irene - retired 2011 (Irma)
Jose - still active
Katrina - retired 2005 (Katia)
Lenny - retired 1999 (Lee)
Maria - presumably retired 2017 (TBA)
Nate - still active
Ophelia - still active
Philippe - still active
Rita - retired 2005 (Rina)
Stan - retired 2005 (Sean)
Tammy - still active
Vince - still active
Wilma - retired 2005 (Whitney)
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
Looking at each original list and what is left:
1979 - Ana, Claudette, Henri, Kate, Larry, Mindy, Nicholas, Odette, Peter, Rose, Sam, Teresa, Victor, Wanda (14)
(Retired: Bob, David, Elena/Erika, Frederic/Fabian, Gloria, Isabel, Juan/Joaquin)
1980 - Bonnie, Danielle, Earl, Hermine, Kyle, Lisa, Nicole, Paula, Richard, Shary, Virginie, Walter (12)
(Retired: Allen/Andrew, Charley, Frances, Georges, Ivan/Igor, Jeanne, Mitch/Matthew, Otto, Tomas)
1981 - Arlene, Bret, Cindy, Emily, Gert, Jose, Nate, Ophelia, Philippe, Tammy, Vince (11)
(Retired: Dennis, Floyd, Harvey*, Irene/Irma*, Katrina, Lenny, Maria*, Rita, Stan, Wilma)
1982 - Alberto, Beryl, Chris, Debby, Ernesto, Florence, Helene, Isaac, Leslie, Michael, Nadine, Oscar, Patty, Rafael, Tony, Valerie, William (17)
(Retired: Gilbert, Joan, Keith, Sandy)
1983 - Barry, Chantal, Erin, Gabrielle, Jerry, Karen, Pablo, Sebastian, Tanya, Van, Wendy (11)
(Retired: Alicia/Allison, Dean, Felix, Hugo, Iris/Ingrid, Luis, Marilyn/Michelle, Noel, Opal, Roxanne)
1984 - Arthur, Bertha, Edouard, Josephine, Marco, Nana, Omar, Rene, Sally, Teddy, Vicky, Wilfred (12)
(Retired: Cesar, Diana, Fran, Gustav, Hortense, Isidore/Ike, Klaus, Lili, Paloma)
*presumed
1979 - Ana, Claudette, Henri, Kate, Larry, Mindy, Nicholas, Odette, Peter, Rose, Sam, Teresa, Victor, Wanda (14)
(Retired: Bob, David, Elena/Erika, Frederic/Fabian, Gloria, Isabel, Juan/Joaquin)
1980 - Bonnie, Danielle, Earl, Hermine, Kyle, Lisa, Nicole, Paula, Richard, Shary, Virginie, Walter (12)
(Retired: Allen/Andrew, Charley, Frances, Georges, Ivan/Igor, Jeanne, Mitch/Matthew, Otto, Tomas)
1981 - Arlene, Bret, Cindy, Emily, Gert, Jose, Nate, Ophelia, Philippe, Tammy, Vince (11)
(Retired: Dennis, Floyd, Harvey*, Irene/Irma*, Katrina, Lenny, Maria*, Rita, Stan, Wilma)
1982 - Alberto, Beryl, Chris, Debby, Ernesto, Florence, Helene, Isaac, Leslie, Michael, Nadine, Oscar, Patty, Rafael, Tony, Valerie, William (17)
(Retired: Gilbert, Joan, Keith, Sandy)
1983 - Barry, Chantal, Erin, Gabrielle, Jerry, Karen, Pablo, Sebastian, Tanya, Van, Wendy (11)
(Retired: Alicia/Allison, Dean, Felix, Hugo, Iris/Ingrid, Luis, Marilyn/Michelle, Noel, Opal, Roxanne)
1984 - Arthur, Bertha, Edouard, Josephine, Marco, Nana, Omar, Rene, Sally, Teddy, Vicky, Wilfred (12)
(Retired: Cesar, Diana, Fran, Gustav, Hortense, Isidore/Ike, Klaus, Lili, Paloma)
*presumed
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
To think that - although we have a long way to go - we may have to replace yet another I name as well...
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
CrazyC83 wrote:To think that - although we have a long way to go - we may have to replace yet another I name as well...
I am seeing Ivy as a replacement of Irma.
TheStormExpert wrote:I'm at least 99.9% percent sure that Harvey will be retired next spring. Hopefully this is the only name that gets retired or even considered for retirement this season.
Harold?! Come in and replace Harvey!
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
CrazyC83 wrote:Looking at each original list and what is left:
1979 - Ana, Claudette, Henri, Kate, Larry, Mindy, Nicholas, Odette, Peter, Rose, Sam, Teresa, Victor, Wanda (14)
(Retired: Bob, David, Elena/Erika, Frederic/Fabian, Gloria, Isabel, Juan/Joaquin)
1980 - Bonnie, Danielle, Earl, Hermine, Kyle, Lisa, Nicole, Paula, Richard, Shary, Virginie, Walter (12)
(Retired: Allen/Andrew, Charley, Frances, Georges, Ivan/Igor, Jeanne, Mitch/Matthew, Otto, Tomas)
1981 - Arlene, Bret, Cindy, Emily, Gert, Jose, Maria, Nate, Ophelia, Philippe, Tammy, Vince (12)
(Retired: Dennis, Floyd, Harvey*, Irene, Katrina, Lenny, Rita, Stan, Wilma)
1982 - Alberto, Beryl, Chris, Debby, Ernesto, Florence, Helene, Isaac, Leslie, Michael, Nadine, Oscar, Patty, Rafael, Tony, Valerie, William (17)
(Retired: Gilbert, Joan, Keith, Sandy)
1983 - Barry, Chantal, Erin, Gabrielle, Jerry, Karen, Pablo, Sebastian, Tanya, Van, Wendy (11)
(Retired: Alicia/Allison, Dean, Felix, Hugo, Iris/Ingrid, Luis, Marilyn/Michelle, Noel, Opal, Roxanne)
1984 - Arthur, Bertha, Edouard, Josephine, Klaus, Marco, Nana, Omar, Rene, Sally, Teddy, Vicky, Wilfred (13)
(Retired: Cesar, Diana, Fran, Gustav, Hortense, Isidore/Ike, Lili, Paloma)
*presumed
1984 only has 12 original names left. Klaus was retired in 1990, being replaced with Kyle.
The other numbers are correct.
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For the WPac, Hato has good chance of going as well. This is actually the first use of "Hato," since it is the replacement name for 2011's Washi.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
Names NOT available for replacement names:
Male H names: Harvey, Hector, Henri, Hernan, Howard, Hugo, Humberto
Female I names (just in case...): Ida, Ileana, Imelda, Inez, Ingrid, Ione, Irene, Iris, Irma, Isabel, Iselle, Isis, Ivette
Male H names: Harvey, Hector, Henri, Hernan, Howard, Hugo, Humberto
Female I names (just in case...): Ida, Ileana, Imelda, Inez, Ingrid, Ione, Irene, Iris, Irma, Isabel, Iselle, Isis, Ivette
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement
CrazyC83 wrote:Names NOT available for replacement names:
Male H names: Harvey, Hector, Henri, Hernan, Howard, Hugo, Humberto
Female I names (just in case...): Ida, Ileana, Imelda, Inez, Ingrid, Ione, Irene, Iris, Irma, Isabel, Iselle, Isis, Ivette
Hugo, Hernan, Irene, Iris, Inez, Isabel and many others ARE technically eligible
Retirement only means the name cannot be used for 10 years. That's the official rule. The practice, however, is different
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1900hurricane wrote:For the WPac, Hato has good chance of going as well. This is actually the first use of "Hato," since it is the replacement name for 2011's Washi.
WPAC storms rarely get retired. Unlike the Atlantic, the retirement is very strict even with a high death toll and high damage. Alot manages to get through without retirement and that says alot for Hato with billions of people over here.
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euro6208 wrote:1900hurricane wrote:For the WPac, Hato has good chance of going as well. This is actually the first use of "Hato," since it is the replacement name for 2011's Washi.
WPAC storms rarely get retired. Unlike the Atlantic, the retirement is very strict even with a high death toll and high damage. Alot manages to get through without retirement and that says alot for Hato with billions of people over here.
8 names were retired from 2015-2016 alone. Rare retirements are no longer the case
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For Hato, the meteorological department of Macau has claimed that it is the worst typhoon to hit the city since Typhoon Ruby in 1964, so it is very possible for the SMG to make a request IMO.
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If Irma takes the path predicted it will be retired.
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Alyono wrote:CrazyC83 wrote:Names NOT available for replacement names:
Male H names: Harvey, Hector, Henri, Hernan, Howard, Hugo, Humberto
Female I names (just in case...): Ida, Ileana, Imelda, Inez, Ingrid, Ione, Irene, Iris, Irma, Isabel, Iselle, Isis, Ivette
Hugo, Hernan, Irene, Iris, Inez, Isabel and many others ARE technically eligible
Retirement only means the name cannot be used for 10 years. That's the official rule. The practice, however, is different
Hernan hasn't been retired and Irene is from 2011.
Also, I believe they changed the 10 years rule in the 60's. Now, names are retired forever.
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Quite clear that Harvey is going to be retired, and Irma probably too.
Suggestions:
Harvey: Harold, Hank, Harry, Harrison, Hans, Herb, Herbert, Hamish, Hal, Harper
Irma: Ivy, Ina, Ilsa, Inga, Indira, Ilene, Irina, Isabella, Imogene, Iara, Iola, Ivana, Isa, ...maybe Iva is back.
In Asia, I believe Hato has a good shot, but I won't dare suggest a replacement
Suggestions:
Harvey: Harold, Hank, Harry, Harrison, Hans, Herb, Herbert, Hamish, Hal, Harper
Irma: Ivy, Ina, Ilsa, Inga, Indira, Ilene, Irina, Isabella, Imogene, Iara, Iola, Ivana, Isa, ...maybe Iva is back.
In Asia, I believe Hato has a good shot, but I won't dare suggest a replacement
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Torino wrote:Quite clear that Harvey is going to be retired, and Irma probably too.
Suggestions:
Harvey: Harold, Hank, Harry, Harrison, Hans, Herb, Herbert, Hamish, Hal, Harper
Irma: Ivy, Ina, Ilsa, Inga, Indira, Ilene, Irina, Isabella, Imogene, Iara, Iola, Ivana, Isa, ...maybe Iva is back.
In Asia, I believe Hato has a good shot, but I won't dare suggest a replacement
If I picked replaced names, I would pick Hans and Imogene.
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