ATL: IRMA - Models

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10181 Postby TheBigO » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:28 pm

Any new model runs coming up? Tony Mainolfi at WESH here in Orlando seems to be unilaterally saying the eye is going to hit central Florida, specifically the Orlando metro area. Would like to see something more objective from a model first. Don't see a shift from the NHC track yet either.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10182 Postby rickybobby » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:46 pm

A few people in fb are saying it's moving nne now.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10183 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:06 pm

rickybobby wrote:A few people in fb are saying it's moving nne now.

This thing must still have a sustained hurricane force wind core, correct?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10184 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:25 pm

TheBigO wrote:Any new model runs coming up? Tony Mainolfi at WESH here in Orlando seems to be unilaterally saying the eye is going to hit central Florida, specifically the Orlando metro area. Would like to see something more objective from a model first. Don't see a shift from the NHC track yet either.


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10185 Postby dspguy » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:12 am

Can someone explain the difference between the:

GFS MSLP (mb) and 10m wind speed chart

and the

GFS 850 hpa height dam chart?

Specifically, why does the former show much less wind speed than the latter for the same area? Is it simply the height at which this wind is to be expected? Meaning at ground level, look at the 10m chart? Or is 10m the 10 MINUTE? chart not the 10 meter chart?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10186 Postby terstorm1012 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:17 am

dspguy wrote:Can someone explain the difference between the:

GFS MSLP (mb) and 10m wind speed chart

and the

GFS 850 hpa height dam chart?

Specifically, why does the former show much less wind speed than the latter for the same area? Is it simply the height at which this wind is to be expected? Meaning at ground level, look at the 10m chart? Or is 10m the 10 MINUTE? chart not the 10 meter chart?


MSLP=Mean Sea Level Pressure
10m would mean 10 meters

850mb level is approximately 5,000 feet up (I think, don't quote me on that)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10187 Postby dspguy » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:51 am

terstorm1012 wrote:850mb level is approximately 5,000 feet up (I think, don't quote me on that)


So the average lay person doesn't really care what the 5,000 ft values are since we wouldn't see them at ground level?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10188 Postby terstorm1012 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:56 am

dspguy wrote:
So the average lay person doesn't really care what the 5,000 ft values are since we wouldn't see them at ground level?

sometimes those winds at 5,000 ft can mix down to the surface. the 850mb is still a useful chart.

500mb is even more useful if you want to see steering currents and whatnot.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10189 Postby Sanibel » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:59 pm

GFS was too far east for most of Irma except for the last most important run where it nailed the east jog after landfall...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#10190 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:16 am

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