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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1541 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:39 am

NASA's 3-D Look at Maria

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/20 ... ntic-ocean


Also at NASA Goddard, a 3-D image of Hurricane Maria was made to understand what was happening within the storm. The dual-frequency radar on the Global Precipitation Measurement (GPM) satellite saw an impressively tall thunderstorms cell of precipitation in the compact eyewall of Hurricane Maria on Monday, Sept.18, 2017. "Enough water vapor was condensing into rain inside of this cell that rapid updrafts developed, rapid enough to lift the precipitation until it froze and then even higher until it penetrated into the lower stratosphere at 16.75 km altitude," said Owen Kelley of NASA Goddard's Precipitation Processing System..

"This tall cell (also known as a "hot tower") was part of a sequence of such cells that were seen by infrared satellite instruments, such as the one on the recently launched GOES-16 satellite. Meanwhile, Maria put on an unexpectedly fast intensification from category 1 to category 3 on the Saffir-Simpson scale on Monday (Sept. 18)."

Research conducted at NASA, at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and elsewhere suggests that a sequence of hot towers, also known as a "convective burst," is one a way to detect that a hurricane's heat engine going into high gear. The end result is intensified winds circling the eye at the ocean's surface.

Maria continued to intensify after GPM passed overhead and reached Category 5 status that night.

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1542 Postby Blinhart » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:40 am

floridasun78 wrote:have say jose save usa from hit from maria but feel bad for islands and Puerto Rico and member their cycloneye and other



I still don't think Jose will save the Continental US from Maria.

Side note Maria is hitting the USA no matter what, the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico are properties of the USA and could become states within the next 20 years.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1543 Postby loro-rojo » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:40 am

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galaxy401 wrote:Got to say, it's pretty quiet here considering we have a category 5 hurricane on its way to hit Puerto Rico tomorrow...


Thinking a lot of people aren't really sure what to think right now, and still a few of the regulars are probably without power from Irma, or are busy still cleaning up from Harvey and Irma.


People in the island of Culebra were just being interviewed by a local radio station. A lady was saying that she was not leaving because she had rode out hurricanes before in Culebra. The reporter asked her "But lady, this is a category 5 hurricane" and she replied "so was Irma and we did ok".

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1544 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:49 am

loro-rojo wrote:
Blinhart wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:Got to say, it's pretty quiet here considering we have a category 5 hurricane on its way to hit Puerto Rico tomorrow...


Thinking a lot of people aren't really sure what to think right now, and still a few of the regulars are probably without power from Irma, or are busy still cleaning up from Harvey and Irma.


People in the island of Culebra were just being interviewed by a local radio station. A lady was saying that she was not leaving because she had rode out hurricanes before in Culebra. The reporter asked her "But lady, this is a category 5 hurricane" and she replied "so was Irma and we did ok".

Crazy.


Irma was not even a hurricane in Puerto Rico...I don't think any stations on the island recorded hurricane-force winds.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1545 Postby weathernerdguy » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:51 am

CrazyC83 wrote:
loro-rojo wrote:
Blinhart wrote:
Thinking a lot of people aren't really sure what to think right now, and still a few of the regulars are probably without power from Irma, or are busy still cleaning up from Harvey and Irma.


People in the island of Culebra were just being interviewed by a local radio station. A lady was saying that she was not leaving because she had rode out hurricanes before in Culebra. The reporter asked her "But lady, this is a category 5 hurricane" and she replied "so was Irma and we did ok".

Crazy.


Irma was not even a hurricane in Puerto Rico...I don't think any stations on the island recorded hurricane-force winds.
it was max intensity then?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1546 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:52 am

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1547 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:52 am

New recon mission in route.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1548 Postby T-man » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:57 am

weathernerdguy wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
loro-rojo wrote:
People in the island of Culebra were just being interviewed by a local radio station. A lady was saying that she was not leaving because she had rode out hurricanes before in Culebra. The reporter asked her "But lady, this is a category 5 hurricane" and she replied "so was Irma and we did ok".

Crazy.


Irma was not even a hurricane in Puerto Rico...I don't think any stations on the island recorded hurricane-force winds.
it was max intensity then?

Highest winds stayed offshore, a glancing blow was delivered by Irma. check the archive track. They do not know what they are in for if forecast track verifies.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/IR ... e_and_wind
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1549 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:22 pm

The island of Dominica has taken a direct it from Hurricane Maria with sustained winds of 160 mph and gusts to 195 mph. She continues to track to the NW at nearly 10 mph which will put the hurricane over the Virgin Islands Tuesday night and Puerto Rico by Wednesday morning as a Cat 5 storm.

Latest data show winds could gust in excess of 200 mph in the higher terrain of Puerto Rico accompanied by 12 to 25 inches of rain leading to catastrophic mudslides in addition to very destructive waves up to 30 feet high on the east side of the island on top of a 9-foot storm surge.


This from a NTX Meteorologist on Maria
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1550 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:25 pm

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1551 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:27 pm

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1552 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:29 pm

As ugly these houses they may seem to some these reinforced concrete walls & roof homes will probably the only ones that would be left with a roof if Maria remains a Cat 5 as it tracks over St Croix and P.R.
I just talked to my next door neighbor whose mother lives in the town of Fajardo in the eastern side of the Island, I feel better now that he told me her house is similar to one of these.

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1553 Postby PTPatrick » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:34 pm

well i know we often say the cone matters, but this time the eye will definitely matter. Obviously all in the cone need to be ready for the eye. it looks very bad for PR but ultimately the major hurricane force winds are such a small radius, and part of that radius may remain offshore of PR. Of course it remains to be seen if she stays this small. This will no doubt be a heavy blow to PR, the worst in many years, but i dont see how it will create widespread devastation across a 100x40 mile island with a 5 mile wind maximum. Flooding is a major concern, and the eyewall areas will see Charley like Devastation but thankfully this is not an Irma sized cane. There will be areas of Puerto Rico that remain nearly unscathed and likely just see TS wind, and that will really help with relief efforts. having neighboring areas that still function is huge. Unfortunately the islands swallowed up by Irma were so devastated the only places to give people relief and to stage efforts are on islands that are flights and boat rides away.

Having said that, St Croix stands to see a fairly large portion of the island get hit hard, as do Culebra and Vieques. they will need help from the folks in PR that don't get hit as hard.
The economic situation in PR is also of concern and I do have my doubts about its ability to stage a major relief effort effectively. Fortunately I am sure the US government will do a lot to help.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1554 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:35 pm

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1555 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:41 pm

of the PR radar has something in the way of the beam that is one thing.. but otherwise someone needs to fix it ... lol
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1556 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:46 pm

Man ohh man...this looks like its going to bisect PR on current trajectory. Prayers to those in her path and I hope everyone is ready for whats on tabs there post storm. I sure hope once north of PR there is no one else effected by Maria...

Scary part is were still in Sept with a developing La Nina...we may be talking into Thanksgiving at this pace.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1557 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:53 pm

YOu can see the outer eyewall really starting to take shape now on radar.. looks like it going to take some time though.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1558 Postby abajan » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:57 pm

mpic wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:Have there been any reports from Dominica yet? I checked online but it seems communications are still down over there.


Check here https://m.facebook.com/DominicaNewsOnline/

This radio station is currently online:
https://tunein.com/radio/Wice-QFM-951-s89626/
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1559 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:59 pm

145 knots unflagged SFMR.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1560 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:00 pm

Pressure down to around 920mb and winds 166mph.
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