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Re: RE: Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1741 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:24 pm

loro-rojo wrote:PR radio is telling people to get ready to hide in closets and hallways to ride out the storm.
Hopefully they dont open windows, they should close interior doors
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1742 Postby ronyan » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:25 pm

EquusStorm wrote:The 913 is official now in the position update. We have a weird situation where Maria is the most intense storm of the year but 20mph away from the strongest of the year by wind speed.


I assume if the ERC did terminate then winds will increase and/or wind field will expand in response to the pressure drop.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1743 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:27 pm

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SouthDadeFish wrote:Great question. I'm beginning to wonder if these really intense TCs have a unique version of ERCs that allows them to continue to intensify. Like something with the dynamics are different than the "typical" ERC. I also do not recall TCs intensifying like this while the secondary eyewall forms... This would be a fantastic research opportunity with the radar datasets from Irma and now Maria.
I noticed that these storms have often not had the more traditional circular eyewall surrounded by a moat. Their structure has been more of a continuous spiral. It might not explain everything, because sometimes these storm have had the more traditional structure, but I thought it was odd.

More and more mention of concentrated lightning in the developing core, as well...
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1744 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:28 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
loro-rojo wrote:PR radio is telling people to get ready to hide in closets and hallways to ride out the storm.
Hopefully they dont open windows, they should close interior doors

Who would ever open a window in a hurricane?

To counteract pressure?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1745 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:28 pm

ronyan wrote:
EquusStorm wrote:The 913 is official now in the position update. We have a weird situation where Maria is the most intense storm of the year but 20mph away from the strongest of the year by wind speed.


I assume if the ERC did terminate then winds will increase and/or wind field will expand in response to the pressure drop.


Yeah a larger wind field is what I'm afraid of as it gets closer and closer. I'd love to see it stay small. Really it's Irma's unreal sustained wind in an area with much higher ambient pressures that throws things off a little, Maria seems a bit closer to normal on the wind/pressure relationship from what I've seen in previous years lol. Let's hope Maria doesn't decide to hit 185 as well, before it gets to Puerto Rico...
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1746 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:29 pm

The northern eyewall is going nuts. Probably 910mb/150kt now.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1747 Postby cainjamin » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:29 pm

221700 1648N 06401W 6966 02473 9283 +148 //// 228106 136 142 023 05
221730 1649N 06402W 6971 02402 9162 +162 +155 230046 082 064 004 00
221800 1651N 06403W 6965 02391 9150 +151 //// 226022 029 059 002 01
221830 1652N 06405W 6965 02367 9106 +193 +130 225003 018 052 000 03
221900 1653N 06406W 6970 02359 9093 +204 +125 025013 025 052 001 03
221930 1654N 06407W 6963 02370 9099 +196 +136 043047 059 /// /// 03
222000 1656N 06407W 6977 02376 9137 +182 +143 054082 090 144 004 00
222030 1657N 06407W 6951 02454 9204 +161 +152 061113 132 151 016 00
222100 1658N 06407W 6952 02509 9317 +150 +150 068145 151 152 035 00

Looks like Maria is still intensifying. 175 MPH and ~910 mmHg for now.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1748 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:30 pm

Yeah at least 150 kt now, maybe 155 kt. Pressure looks to be around 910.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1749 Postby Cunxi Huang » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:30 pm

222100 1658N 06407W 6952 02509 9317 +150 +150 068145 151 152 035 00


SFMR 152 kt.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1750 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:31 pm

craziness...
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#1751 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:32 pm

jdjaguar wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
loro-rojo wrote:PR radio is telling people to get ready to hide in closets and hallways to ride out the storm.
Hopefully they dont open windows, they should close interior doors

Who would ever open a window in a hurricane?

To counteract pressure?
That was the theory and people were doing it in sofla during irma, there were also homes and businesses taping windows, you can still see the glue..
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1752 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:37 pm

Holy jeez. This is not the time for further rapid deepening. :eek: 910 ties it with Ivan and the 1924 Cuba hurricane as 10th most intense in the basin... and it still could drop further. This season, I swear...
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1753 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:37 pm

Absolutely ridiculous. We all begging for something to happen to spare Puerto Rico, and she just keeps on getting stronger.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1754 Postby RL3AO » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:40 pm

910 mb would tie it for the top 10 on record in the Atlantic. Incredible to see what the last four weeks have brought to the Atlantic.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1755 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:41 pm

Center dropsonde - 910 mb / 14 kt

Likely sub-910 at this point...
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#1756 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:41 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
jdjaguar wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:Hopefully they dont open windows, they should close interior doors

Who would ever open a window in a hurricane?
The
To counteract pressure?
That was the theory and people were doing it in sofla during irma, there were also homes and businesses taping windows, you can still see the glue..

I did have a window pop completely out of the frame during Irma, so I do get the pressure thing.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1757 Postby abajan » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:42 pm

Gustywind wrote:LUIS do not let guard down, MARIA is a monter WIND CANE pretty amazing, take it seriously because of Guadeloupe have been HIT POUND seriously!
I'm tired 2 hours of sleep only, but i can assume that all who are in the path of MARIA to be EXTREMELY VIGILANT, some people of Guadeloupe said that winds were like reactor of a plane and i can personnaly tell you that winds are tremendous, rainfall had been extreme in some areas like Saint-Claude with 459 millimeters :eek: :eek: :eek: BE PREPARED PR GOD WILL BLESS YOU AS THE OTHERS NEIGHBOURS i hope sincerely!
By the way i have no water in my locality, no TV, the satellite on the top of the building had been swept by the strong winds this morning as i'm in front of the sea only 20 meters from my balcon.
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Gustywind very worry and sad of the others neighbours! This stuff is insane, nasty and unrealistic! :cry: :cry: :( :(

Really thankful to know you're okay, Gusty. I've been hearing of how seriously Maria affected Guadeloupe, with a man losing his life when a tree fell on him, as he as he ignored warnings to stay indoors and ventured outside. And I understand many are without power.

The outlook for Luis does indeed look dire. Maria's minimum central pressure is falling precipitously. At 4 PM, it was 920 MB. By 5 PM it had dropped to 916 MB. Now, it's down a further 3 MB to 913. It's just a matter of time before Maria's winds respond. I have a hunch the maximum sustained winds will be 175 mph by the time the eye reaches Puerto Rico's coast. Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1758 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:43 pm

The is CDO is rapidly cooling in recent frames with large area of -80C gray color showing up.
Honestly, this is already more impressive than Irma in terms of satellite presentation.

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Re: RE: Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1759 Postby znel52 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:44 pm

jdjaguar wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
loro-rojo wrote:PR radio is telling people to get ready to hide in closets and hallways to ride out the storm.
Hopefully they dont open windows, they should close interior doors

Who would ever open a window in a hurricane?

To counteract pressure?


Yes that is what it is supposed to accomplish but it is an old wives tale. Much better to leave them closed.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1760 Postby NotSparta » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:47 pm

RL3AO wrote:910 mb would tie it for the top 10 on record in the Atlantic. Incredible to see what the last four weeks have brought to the Atlantic.


Giving 2005 a run for its money lately
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