Area from NW Caribbean across Cuba to the Bahamas (now INVEST 99L)

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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#41 Postby blp » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:15 am

gatorcane wrote:Looks like this has something to do with the convection blowing up south of Cuba. I expect NHC will mention this area in the next 2pm outlook. Could be a good coupe for the GFS showing this well in advance (from model output several days ago).



Yeah I thought this was GFS garbage when I saw it but now the models are picking it up. Even CMC has is but on the other side of the State. Looks to be coming in from that flareup south of Cuba.

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Re: Disturbed Weather in the Western Caribbean/Bay of Campeche

#42 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:16 am

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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#43 Postby joey » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:20 am

LarryWx wrote:The 12Z GFS has the strongest low yet for its runs. On Friday, it has a sfc low form over S FL. Then it moves NE to 175 miles E of Daytona late on Saturday and strengthens it to 1009 mb. Then it moves back SW to over S FL late on Sunday followed by weakening as it then moves westward into the GOM.


yes could get interesting hope they will start picking up all the debris around those area before this happens as it could also stall before turning back to the sw overfl could be a mess
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Re: Disturbed Weather in the Western Caribbean/Bay of Campeche

#44 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:21 am

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Re: Disturbed Weather in the Western Caribbean/Bay of Campeche

#45 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:21 am

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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#46 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:50 am

Based on 12zGFS it looks like SE and SFl will need an ark to get thru the next 10 days.
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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#47 Postby boca » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:58 am

Link to rainfall totals?
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Re: Disturbed Weather in the Western Caribbean/Bay of Campeche

#48 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:05 pm

12Z GFS starts the Gyre dance about +210 hrs

Cranks it up then in the GOM

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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#49 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:07 pm

joey wrote:
LarryWx wrote:The 12Z GFS has the strongest low yet for its runs. On Friday, it has a sfc low form over S FL. Then it moves NE to 175 miles E of Daytona late on Saturday and strengthens it to 1009 mb. Then it moves back SW to over S FL late on Sunday followed by weakening as it then moves westward into the GOM.


yes could get interesting hope they will start picking up all the debris around those area before this happens as it could also stall before turning back to the sw overfl could be a mess
its going to take 2-3 months to get all the debris, still piles everywhere
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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#50 Postby Taffy » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:08 pm

Following..... This is the last thing my area of Lee County and Collier County needs.
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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#51 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:08 pm

northjaxpro wrote:If model support continues into tonight, which I see no reason why it would cease given the yrends for possible development near Florida, I think we should start a separate thread on that potential no later than tomorrow morning.
we need a poll for lowest mb on this one...its going to be tricky to predict what it actually does
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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#52 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:16 pm

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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#53 Postby joey » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:33 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:If model support continues into tonight, which I see no reason why it would cease given the yrends for possible development near Florida, I think we should start a separate thread on that potential no later than tomorrow morning.
we need a poll for lowest mb on this one...its going to be tricky to predict what it actually does


1007 mb before the turn sw then 1005 mb as it crosss :larrow:
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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#54 Postby CyclonicFury » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:36 pm

000
ABNT20 KNHC 271730
TWOAT

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Wed Sep 27 2017

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
Maria, located east of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and on
Hurricane Lee, located over the central Atlantic Ocean.

An area of disturbed weather associated with a trough of low
pressure is located over the northwestern Caribbean Sea. This
system is forecast to move slowly north-northwestward across Cuba
and the Straits for Florida during the next day or so. Some
development of this system is possible when it moves near the
Florida peninsula or the northwestern Bahamas on Friday or Saturday
before upper-level winds become less favorable early next week.
Regardless of development, this system is likely to produce locally
heavy rainfall over portions of Cuba, southern Florida, the Florida
Keys, and the Bahamas during the next several days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#55 Postby ronjon » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:37 pm

1005 mb low according to 12z GFS - then weakens it to 1007 mb as it approaches east coast of Florida.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=us&pkg=mslp_wind&runtime=2017092712&fh=84
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#56 Postby joey » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:38 pm

ronjon wrote:1005 mb low according to 12z GFS - then weakens it to 1007 mb as it approaches east coast of Florida.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=us&pkg=mslp_wind&runtime=2017092712&fh=84


and we got the yellow x lol they going by the models now
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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#57 Postby joey » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:40 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:000
ABNT20 KNHC 271730
TWOAT

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Wed Sep 27 2017

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
Maria, located east of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and on
Hurricane Lee, located over the central Atlantic Ocean.

An area of disturbed weather associated with a trough of low
pressure is located over the northwestern Caribbean Sea. This
system is forecast to move slowly north-northwestward across Cuba
and the Straits for Florida during the next day or so. Some
development of this system is possible when it moves near the
Florida peninsula or the northwestern Bahamas on Friday or Saturday
before upper-level winds become less favorable early next week.
Regardless of development, this system is likely to produce locally
heavy rainfall over portions of Cuba, southern Florida, the Florida
Keys, and the Bahamas during the next several days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

$$
Forecaster Brown

this could become 99l again too lol
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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#58 Postby BYG Jacob » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:43 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:000
ABNT20 KNHC 271730
TWOAT

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Wed Sep 27 2017

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
Maria, located east of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and on
Hurricane Lee, located over the central Atlantic Ocean.

An area of disturbed weather associated with a trough of low
pressure is located over the northwestern Caribbean Sea. This
system is forecast to move slowly north-northwestward across Cuba
and the Straits for Florida during the next day or so. Some
development of this system is possible when it moves near the
Florida peninsula or the northwestern Bahamas on Friday or Saturday
before upper-level winds become less favorable early next week.
Regardless of development, this system is likely to produce locally
heavy rainfall over portions of Cuba, southern Florida, the Florida
Keys, and the Bahamas during the next several days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

$$
Forecaster Brown

Chances should be higher than that, this is in quite favorable conditions
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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#59 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:52 pm

Looks more like a frontal low that the models are developing east of Florida next week than a tropical low. Look at the low temps across the SE U.S. this Sunday.

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Re: Disturbance off Florida Coast

#60 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:54 pm

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