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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#561 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:26 pm

Brent wrote:
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Portastorm wrote:
Same here in Austin. At 3 pm we had 84 at Camp Mabry which ties a daily high record from 1977. We usually see these kinds of warm ups before strong fronts, don't we though? I think there is a technical term which our pro mets and/or physics majors would know: adiabatic compression, maybe? Anyhow ... yes ... ready for the cold front down here too!

My grandpa could predict cold snaps and snowfall well before it would ever happen. No idea how, but he always used to say, "its gotta get warm before it gets cold". Seems like it always happens that way.


Is true really in history but this year the warmth has been wall to wall mostly

Still looking forward to at least december temps tomorrow

I’m afraid it’s going to be that way all winter, aside from the few days here and there of cool weather.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#562 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:33 pm

If the gfs is right you can forget about a freeze not even close and the run goes out to the 20th

Meanwhile east of here gets cold snap after cold snap even into Florida

Also no rain either after the next couple days
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#563 Postby starsfan65 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:21 pm

Brent wrote:If the gfs is right you can forget about a freeze not even close and the run goes out to the 20th

Meanwhile east of here gets cold snap after cold snap even into Florida

Also no rain either after the next couple days

It will be wrong.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#564 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:29 pm

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Brent wrote:If the gfs is right you can forget about a freeze not even close and the run goes out to the 20th

Meanwhile east of here gets cold snap after cold snap even into Florida

Also no rain either after the next couple days

It will be wrong.


Says who? Warmth is pretty much all that has verified
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#565 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:55 pm

Man the vibe is negative. Winter has not even started and NTx is about to see its second winter precip event. Below average temps all of this week and normal temps next week. Still a decent shot at a significant storm next week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#566 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:23 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Man the vibe is negative. Winter has not even started and NTx is about to see its second winter precip event. Below average temps all of this week and normal temps next week. Still a decent shot at a significant storm next week.

I think the last 2 winters kind of made of us all a little bitter and killed hope. We need cold weather. I’m still killing rattlesnakes around the house in December. That’s just crazy!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#567 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:32 pm

Yukon Cornelius wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:Man the vibe is negative. Winter has not even started and NTx is about to see its second winter precip event. Below average temps all of this week and normal temps next week. Still a decent shot at a significant storm next week.

I think the last 2 winters kind of made of us all a little bitter and killed hope. We need cold weather. I’m still killing rattlesnakes around the house in December. That’s just crazy!


Its been really hard to be optimistic of late

I thought we would have the temperatures coming up a month ago instead we had record highs never seen before. We literally got cold for a day or two then hit 94 degrees lol

DFW will be into top 10 latest freezes on record if it doesnt happen by next Thursday which looks entirely plausible

Were on track for warmest year on record(yet again) barring something utterly drastic happening

I mean yes the pattern is an improvement compared to lately but i expected a lot more a week or two ago. These temperatures are barely average pretty much

Why should i believe the pattern is better mid month? Maybe it will be but I'm not falling for it again when models can't get rid of the +PNA killing us
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#568 Postby lrak » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:01 pm

I can understand how people want cold weather if they're a custom to it. For me http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-97.3656209000526&lat=27.675302201952363#.WiX9BlWnGV5 is cold for us down here. We need shine instead of rain during cold snaps. I know I'm a W____

Even my new wet suit spells w____ on it. Set me back some $$$
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#569 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:07 pm

Guess I'm not feeling all of the doom as we have been down in the 20s multiple times and only warmed into the mid 70s here in E Tx. Had a October freeze, several November freezes and more to come this week. A 1/3 of Texas will see at least a wintery mix starting tomorrow evening. It is still the first week of December. The PNA will relax eventually and we will get our turn. This is not an El Nino torch of the continent. This reminds me of early in this year's tropical season when people screamed bust. This season was expected to be above average with periodic cold spells and those are coming. And if I am wrong then temps in the 60s all winter is not a bad consolation prize.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#570 Postby gpsnowman » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:20 pm

I am just as frustrated as anyone. Heck, my a/c has been running ever since I got home from work, on December 4th!!!! I leave at 4 am for work and the strong north wind in the morning will be refreshing to say the least. This is a decent front and will feel cold considering it was 84 today, a record by the way. Yuck. Plenty of winter remaining to track fronts and storms. Keep the faith!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#571 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:20 pm

In other news there is actual rain on radar approaching the northern suburbs :double:

I had to dust off my radar app lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#572 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:45 pm

The 0z 12km NAM

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#573 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:52 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Man the vibe is negative. Winter has not even started and NTx is about to see its second winter precip event. Below average temps all of this week and normal temps next week. Still a decent shot at a significant storm next week.


Yes people are sleeping on this little system on Wednesday as if it's going to be some kind of warm day. The I-20 corridor will be colder than 0C up to 5000ft, Which is colder than prior runs with a warm pocket but atm lacking moisture. South and west is more marginal but they have qpf. Nudge one or the other or both maybe a surprise?

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#574 Postby Garyhughes68 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:59 pm

Let's hope for a surprise! Waiting for the cold front now.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#575 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:59 pm

It even has pockets of mixture into parts of SE Texas

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#576 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:59 pm

Garyhughes68 wrote:Let's hope for a surprise! Waiting for the cold front now.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#577 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:09 pm

Ntxw wrote:It even has pockets of mixture into parts of SE Texas

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You never know what can happen in the weather department. Being cautiously optimistic is the best way to go, but at the same time it’s best to keep your expectations tempered a bit to save you some heartbreak because this is Texas after all. It’s also very much possible that the front comes in 2 or 3 degrees colder with a lil more precip. A surprise for many of us could be in the works.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#578 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:15 pm

The 12km nam

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Check out the historic snow in Atlanta too
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#579 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:17 pm

Interesting NAM. These systems come in colder than progged typically. Whats the typical bias on the NAM again? Is it higher dewpoints?

NAM pushes the 850 MB OC isotherm past the gulf coast Thursday morning. We shall see.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#580 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:24 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Interesting NAM. These systems come in colder than progged typically. Whats the typical bias on the NAM again? Is it higher dewpoints?

NAM pushes the 850 MB OC isotherm past the gulf coast Thursday morning. We shall see.


It can be overzealous with QPF. Generally it is pretty good with temp profiles within 48 hours.
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