Check out the tight gradient
-20s into Kansas and DFW in the low teens

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stormlover2013 wrote:Gfs is horrible !! So many phantom winter storms
stormlover2013 wrote:Gfs is horrible !! So many phantom winter storms
wxman22 wrote:stormlover2013 wrote:Gfs is horrible !! So many phantom winter storms
I don't think this is a phantom storm, the question is will it be just rain showers, or will we have enough moisture and energy to work with once the cold air is in place for frozen precip? Only time will tell...
Ntxw wrote:Canadian has a strong front for the same time. Low and mid teens NY and the day after, highs in the 20s. For once I think the GFS is colder than the Canadian
Will the Euro dump cold again? Or set a new trend?
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:That gradient is REALLY tight Ntx. Thats brutal cold with the wind factored in. I just hope the cold doesnt get wrapped in with the ULL/Polar vortex. (It may not be the actual PV)
The GFS seems to be coming some of the energy with the low. I think this is a problem with the GFS though, could be wrong. That big high should crash into the GOM, but it wants to shunt it east.
Look at the temps. Its cold in the source region now.
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:That gradient is REALLY tight Ntx. Thats brutal cold with the wind factored in. I just hope the cold doesnt get wrapped in with the ULL/Polar vortex. (It may not be the actual PV)
The GFS seems to be coming some of the energy with the low. I think this is a problem with the GFS though, could be wrong. That big high should crash into the GOM, but it wants to shunt it east.
Look at the temps. Its cold in the source region now.
Cpv17 wrote:TeamPlayersBlue wrote:That gradient is REALLY tight Ntx. Thats brutal cold with the wind factored in. I just hope the cold doesnt get wrapped in with the ULL/Polar vortex. (It may not be the actual PV)
The GFS seems to be coming some of the energy with the low. I think this is a problem with the GFS though, could be wrong. That big high should crash into the GOM, but it wants to shunt it east.
Look at the temps. Its cold in the source region now.
I’ve noticed that on most of the models this year, the coldest anomalies are going more south and east vs straight south. Why is this?? High pressure to the west??
Ntxw wrote:Cpv17 wrote:TeamPlayersBlue wrote:That gradient is REALLY tight Ntx. Thats brutal cold with the wind factored in. I just hope the cold doesnt get wrapped in with the ULL/Polar vortex. (It may not be the actual PV)
The GFS seems to be coming some of the energy with the low. I think this is a problem with the GFS though, could be wrong. That big high should crash into the GOM, but it wants to shunt it east.
Look at the temps. Its cold in the source region now.
I’ve noticed that on most of the models this year, the coldest anomalies are going more south and east vs straight south. Why is this?? High pressure to the west??
The +PNA. You want it off or along the west coast, not into the Rockies.
bubba hotep wrote:Not surprising, the GFS in the longer range is showing a series of systems kicking out of the SW with lots of rain for Texas. This would fit with the MJO cycling into 2/3 in January during a Nina. The Pacific pattern should retrograde allowing for a mean trough across the SW with Texas in the ejection zone. Biggest problem, this kind of pattern has Pacific air flooding WCAN and there wouldn't be much cold air to work with.
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