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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3321 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:28 pm

The Euro doesn't even have a warmup in DFW before next weekend... not even 50 degrees... the front may not be that drastic but its chilly to begin with :lol:

Temps falling into the 30s Saturday with some light rain before it turns colder

Highs in the lower 40s NYE... yeah its not THAT cold
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3322 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:31 pm

Front looks faster on the Euro, time the precip well for you DFW folk at least?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3323 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:36 pm

Brent wrote:The Euro doesn't even have a warmup in DFW before next weekend... not even 50 degrees... the front may not be that drastic but its chilly to begin with :lol:

Temps falling into the 30s Saturday with some light rain before it turns colder

Highs in the lower 40s NYE... yeah its not THAT cold


I don’t really buy it though. It has the really cold air pouring into the central plains and then it just stops moving south and shunts it off straight east into the midwest and east coast.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3324 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:37 pm

a few hundredths of QPF on the Euro at DFW as 2017 ends with temps falling to near freezing hm. Literally right before midnight. 850s are cold enough as the precip is ending.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3325 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:37 pm

12z Euro cold wise is coming in more favorable than the 0z run was. More of the cold air damming up against the Rockies vs purely sliding east
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3326 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:39 pm

Ntxw wrote:12z Euro cold wise is coming in more favorable than the 0z run was. More of the cold air damming up against the Rockies vs purely sliding east

There appears to be a secondary push of colder air. I see a 1049mb high behind the 1047mb one.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3327 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:40 pm

yup Euro looks like it's going for a more gradual cold vs all at once like the GFS

New Years Day struggles to get above freezing at DFW and 850s are much colder than NYE
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3328 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:41 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:12z Euro cold wise is coming in more favorable than the 0z run was. More of the cold air damming up against the Rockies vs purely sliding east

There appears to be a secondary push of colder air. I see a 1049mb high behind the 1047mb one.


That's what the Canadian did vs the GFS which had one massive high barrel down at once
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3329 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:43 pm

1039 mb high over Joplin January 2nd on the Euro

Definitely not a warm look lol

DFW around 20 degrees that morning

Another day DFW struggles to get above freezing, no precip
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3330 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:46 pm

Brent wrote:1039 mb high over Joplin January 2nd on the Euro

Definitely not a warm look lol

DFW around 20 degrees that morning


Also keeps DFW in the upper 30s near 40 most of the week. Warms to blistering 40s Fri-Sat before front.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3331 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:49 pm

Ntxw wrote:
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Ntxw wrote:12z Euro cold wise is coming in more favorable than the 0z run was. More of the cold air damming up against the Rockies vs purely sliding east

There appears to be a secondary push of colder air. I see a 1049mb high behind the 1047mb one.


That's what the Canadian did vs the GFS which had one massive high barrel down at once

Which one do you think is right? And by what day would you expect to know for sure? I say Wednesday. Also, how cold are temps in the source region where this front is coming from?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3332 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:51 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:1039 mb high over Joplin January 2nd on the Euro

Definitely not a warm look lol

DFW around 20 degrees that morning


Also keeps DFW in the upper 30s near 40 most of the week. Warms to blistering 40s Fri-Sat before front.


yeah there is zero warmth on this run, not even average. Hope everyone enjoyed the warmth :lol:

end of the Euro looks to be a winter storm trying to start? DFW gets a little precip with temps cold enough(January 3rd)
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3333 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:53 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:There appears to be a secondary push of colder air. I see a 1049mb high behind the 1047mb one.


That's what the Canadian did vs the GFS which had one massive high barrel down at once

Which one do you think is right? And by what day would you expect to know for sure? I say Wednesday. Also, how cold are temps in the source region where this front is coming from?


It's really cold in Canada now. It's -20s along the US/Can border real time no less later this week. I'm not sure which solution is right, given it's already a cold pattern now, I would favor the Euro since the HP intensity that the GFS has been showing seems extreme and rare. We're actually doing the opposite from the last time, models were cold long range and trended warmer. It's going the other way this time. Maybe by Weds or Thurs we will know how cold

Here is map of the Euro on NYE. Looks like some light snow

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Current temps. We have also built somewhat of a decent snow cover that increases this week

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3334 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:56 pm

yeah I thought there might be a little snow on the Euro around midnight NYE

That'd be interesting :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3335 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:59 pm

Brent wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:1039 mb high over Joplin January 2nd on the Euro

Definitely not a warm look lol

DFW around 20 degrees that morning


Also keeps DFW in the upper 30s near 40 most of the week. Warms to blistering 40s Fri-Sat before front.


yeah there is zero warmth on this run, not even average. Hope everyone enjoyed the warmth :lol:

end of the Euro looks to be a winter storm trying to start? DFW gets a little precip with temps cold enough(January 3rd)


Check out temps on the 240 hour frame on the Euro lol puts Texas into the ice box.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3336 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:01 pm

Euro also reloads the Gulf of Alaska ridge at the end of the run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3337 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:03 pm

Brent wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:1039 mb high over Joplin January 2nd on the Euro

Definitely not a warm look lol

DFW around 20 degrees that morning


Also keeps DFW in the upper 30s near 40 most of the week. Warms to blistering 40s Fri-Sat before front.


yeah there is zero warmth on this run, not even average. Hope everyone enjoyed the warmth :lol:

end of the Euro looks to be a winter storm trying to start? DFW gets a little precip with temps cold enough(January 3rd)


It has a I-45 special with snow from Dallas, to heavy snow in SE Texas just north of Houston. snow in Houston at the back edge
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3338 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:06 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Also keeps DFW in the upper 30s near 40 most of the week. Warms to blistering 40s Fri-Sat before front.


yeah there is zero warmth on this run, not even average. Hope everyone enjoyed the warmth :lol:

end of the Euro looks to be a winter storm trying to start? DFW gets a little precip with temps cold enough(January 3rd)


It has a I-45 special with snow from Dallas, to heavy snow in SE Texas just north of Houston. snow in Houston at the back edge


It’s sure going to be fun to track this over the next week or so. Looks very interesting. Definitely looking forward to it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3339 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:08 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
That's what the Canadian did vs the GFS which had one massive high barrel down at once

Which one do you think is right? And by what day would you expect to know for sure? I say Wednesday. Also, how cold are temps in the source region where this front is coming from?


It's really cold in Canada now. It's -20s along the US/Can border real time no less later this week. I'm not sure which solution is right, given it's already a cold pattern now, I would favor the Euro since the HP intensity that the GFS has been showing seems extreme and rare. We're actually doing the opposite from the last time, models were cold long range and trended warmer. It's going the other way this time. Maybe by Weds or Thurs we will know how cold

Here is map of the Euro on NYE. Looks like some light snow

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Current temps. We have also built somewhat of a decent snow cover that increases this week

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As a certain former heat mongoer used to post on here until he flipped to the good side, pay attention to source regions.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3340 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:17 pm

Don’t buy any models right now guys, they will let u down, no model has been consistent, should know by Friday
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