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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3361 Postby DonWrk » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:31 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Don’t pay attention to models until about 2 days before the event !


Then how do you know if there’s going to be an event in the first place?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3362 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:51 pm

DonWrk wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:Don’t pay attention to models until about 2 days before the event !


Then how do you know if there’s going to be an event in the first place?


He’s salty because of how bad the models burned us last time. I can understand that though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3363 Postby DonWrk » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:27 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
DonWrk wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:Don’t pay attention to models until about 2 days before the event !


Then how do you know if there’s going to be an event in the first place?


He’s salty because of how bad the models burned us last time. I can understand that though.


Totally understand but no need to repeat the same every page. Now back to winter weather.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3364 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:47 pm

No, just saying don’t get excited right now. Models have had a hard time, 2 days before the event is where u need pay attention, they have been so up and down.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3365 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:02 pm

Tomorrow is Tuesday so it will be coming in less than a week. If there were any significant shifts, they probably would have already happened. Euro had a major shift over the past weekend, I don't think it will change too drastically except for maybe pinning down timing of front and precise temps.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3366 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:15 pm

Euro Weeklies keep N. Texas at avg. rainfall and below avg. temps. However, it gets wetter and warmer as the run wears on. The run ends in Feb and it looks like a wet & warm pattern by that point.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3367 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:26 pm

I like how the NAM skips over most N. Texas lol

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3368 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:38 pm

:uarrow: NAM has DFW 33-35 and 850s dangerously close to 0C tomorrow night into Weds morning with precip in the vicinity. Highs tomorrow could be mid 30s

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3369 Postby BrokenGlassRepublicn » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:40 pm

Any surprises possible for NoTex tomorrow? Dew points are in the low 20s right now.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3370 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:42 pm

NAMs are coming in wetter for DFW, I think temps might not be an issue and pleasantly surprised to see QPF going up.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3371 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:48 pm

Not to raise too many eyebrows, but the setup as the HP is crossing into the US looks quite similar to 1989. -EPO or +PNA quite some time before it, then cold air builds and spills into the US.

Around the 22nd or 23rd of 1989, the trough then expanded down to the Gulf coast to drag the HP down to the GOM. This coming weekend, the trough isnt expected to do this. Other than that. Looks fairly similar. What do you guys think?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3372 Postby JayDT » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:48 pm

So is there a bit of a chance for tomorrow?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3373 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:49 pm

JayDT wrote:So is there a bit of a chance for tomorrow?


Likely not, but you never know. If the weak disturbance and STJ are more than modeled, temps will be very close. It's very cold, if we can just wring out some good moisture it could. The 41F FW is forecasting for the airport might be a bit optimistic or maybe a midnight high
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3374 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:52 pm

Also we likely repeat Wednesday the same as tomorrow. Probably mid 30s, weak disturbance again overhead
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3375 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:55 pm

End of the NAM run. 1052mb high makes an appearance in the Canadian front range/prairies.

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3376 Postby JayDT » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:57 pm

Ntxw wrote:
JayDT wrote:So is there a bit of a chance for tomorrow?


Likely not, but you never know. If the weak disturbance and STJ are more than modeled, temps will be very close. It's very cold, if we can just wring out some good moisture it could. The 41F FW is forecasting for the airport might be a bit optimistic or maybe a midnight high


Ohh ok. Well I hope we can get a pleasant little surprise. Is this one of those setups where it has to be 32 degrees or below to get snow or sleet or whatever is possible?? Or could we get lucky at 33 or 34? lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3377 Postby JayDT » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:58 pm

Ntxw wrote:Also we likely repeat Wednesday the same as tomorrow. Probably mid 30s, weak disturbance again overhead


This I did not know... I really thought today was gonna be the coldest day out of these next three days. Turns out it might be the warmest :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3378 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:00 pm

JayDT wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Also we likely repeat Wednesday the same as tomorrow. Probably mid 30s, weak disturbance again overhead


This I did not know... I really thought today was gonna be the coldest day out of these next three days. Turns out it might be the warmest :lol:


Today is the warmest day of the next 3. Sprawling high pressure comes down in the mid 1040s. It just looked warmer from last week because the models generally held it up to the north due to semi zonal flow aloft, but as you know it's bleeding south. GFS middle of last week had us in the 50s and 60s for tomorrow and Weds....

JayDT wrote:Ohh ok. Well I hope we can get a pleasant little surprise. Is this one of those setups where it has to be 32 degrees or below to get snow or sleet or whatever is possible?? Or could we get lucky at 33 or 34? lol



850s are pretty chilly, so I think it's probably sleet/snow if it happens or just plain very chilly rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3379 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:12 pm

Ntxw wrote:End of the NAM run. 1052mb high makes an appearance in the Canadian front range/prairies.

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This would be in a better position then what the GFS is showing, and much stronger.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3380 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:27 pm

:uarrow: truncated it is much better. Colder in W Canada than Central Canada. PV lobe is further west and more primed to ooze along the front range. Euro and CMC is closer to that look, GFS is furthest east with the high. Wonder if it will cave west?
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