2018 EPAC Season

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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#501 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:01 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:Future 97E (likely to be Fabio) is probably going to be a strong storm. However, the [bold]GFS often has a tendency to over-intensify systems[/bold], so the 905 mb may be too intense. If I had to take a guess on the intensity, I would say strong Category 4 considering the relative rarity of Category 5 hurricanes in the EPAC.


This might be true in the Atlantic (especially phantoms) but in the EPAC it often can be the other way around. Aletta and Bud. This basin RI seems to happen with frequency when conditions present.
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#502 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:02 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:Future 97E (likely to be Fabio) is probably going to be a strong storm. However, the GFS often has a tendency to over-intensify systems, so the 905 mb may be too intense. If I had to take a guess on the intensity, I would say strong Category 4 considering the relative rarity of Category 5 hurricanes in the EPAC.


It believe it did a good job intensity wise with Aletta, Bud, and even Carlotta, especially compared to the Euro. In fact, those first 3 named storms became stronger than what the GFS originally modeled out.

While tough to happen due to the lack of recon, if we factor in the models underestimating intensities so far, Emilia and Fabio could become back to back category 5's. The STR just needs to be stronger to allow Emilia to become that strong. I think it's a very high chance that Emilia and Fabio will at least be category 4 twins.
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#503 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:07 pm

18z GFS run finishing up with Gilma becoming a major hurricane (on higher resolution) and future Hector entering the picture:

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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#504 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:08 pm

Ntxw wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:Future 97E (likely to be Fabio) is probably going to be a strong storm. However, the [bold]GFS often has a tendency to over-intensify systems[/bold], so the 905 mb may be too intense. If I had to take a guess on the intensity, I would say strong Category 4 considering the relative rarity of Category 5 hurricanes in the EPAC.


This might be true in the Atlantic (especially phantoms) but in the EPAC it often can be the other way around. Aletta and Bud. This basin RI seems to happen with frequency when conditions present.


Inner core dynamics are heavily at play for strong hurricanes so I'd not expect this to become a Category 5 but to say the GFS has a tendency to over-intensify systems is oversimplistic, even if it is sometimes true with very strong hurricanes. What the GFS run does tell you is we're gonna see a very potent hurricane, and the very low pressures yield one with fairly cold cloud tops, indicating some chance at becoming a Category 5.
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#505 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:23 pm

CFS backing away and trending towards lower rising VP200 anomalies over the IO for the middle of July. Also correcting to show more anomalous rising VP200 anomalies in the EPAC.

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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#506 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:36 pm

0%/80%

A tropical wave over the southwestern Caribbean Sea should move into
the eastern Pacific tonight or Tuesday. Development is anticipated
as the system moves westward away from Central America, and a
tropical depression is likely to form by the end of this week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


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Re: 2018 EPAC Season: 5 PM PDT TWO: 0%/80%

#507 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:17 pm

Future Fabio will probably have a big tail according to the GFS. Reminds me of Marie '14. I agree with posts above inner structures and timing will likely play a role if it achieves Cat 5 or not. Regardless we're looking at a big, potent system that has been well modeled in advance.

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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#508 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:08 pm

:uarrow: Good catch - almost every mid to upper end Cat 5 worldwide has a southwest ITCTZ feeder tail.
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#509 Postby Weather150 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:21 pm

Now that the NOAA operations are back to normal, more EPAC model watching to commence! :lol:
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#510 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:23 pm

00z GFS with the trio Emilia,Fabio and Gilma. From hours 144 thru 180.

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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#511 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:44 pm

From hours 180 thru 240 you can see Emilia weakening but Fabio bottoms to 916 mbs and Gilma is very strong.

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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#512 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:06 am

Tries for Hector at the end of the run (way out there though). No less, a conveyor belt of 4 TCs. Fabio and Gilma may be twin strong hurricanes
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#513 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:55 am

A tropical wave located over Nicaragua and Costa Rica is expected
to move into the eastern Pacific by Tuesday night. Development is
anticipated as the system moves westward away from Central America,
and a tropical depression is likely to form by the end of the week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent.
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#514 Postby Chris90 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:52 am

My question is how much heat content is there available? It seems to be a conveyor belt of fairly similar tracks in a short period of time, if both Emilia and Fabio become majors, would they leave enough warm water for Gilma to work with, or would they upwell enough cold water without enough time for sufficient recovery that it would limit Gilma's potential?
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#515 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:23 am

00z Euro develops Emilia,Fabio,Gilma and Hector.

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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#516 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:31 am

Chris90 wrote:My question is how much heat content is there available? It seems to be a conveyor belt of fairly similar tracks in a short period of time, if both Emilia and Fabio become majors, would they leave enough warm water for Gilma to work with, or would they upwell enough cold water without enough time for sufficient recovery that it would limit Gilma's potential?


Good question. Not so much Emilia but if Fabio turns into what the models have (Cat 3 and higher) it could upwell waters but if Gilma takes a track a little south of Fabio's,it wont be affected much so it depends on Gilma's track. That is how I see it but others may have a different take.
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#517 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:37 am

06z GFS with the trio of Emilia,Fabio and Gilma.

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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#518 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:49 am

A tropical wave located over Nicaragua and Costa Rica is expected
to move into the eastern Pacific by tonight. Development is
anticipated as the system moves westward away from Central America,
and a tropical depression is expected to form by the end of the
week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent.


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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#519 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:54 am

cycloneye wrote:06z GFS with the trio of Emilia,Fabio and Gilma.

http://oi66.tinypic.com/23sb1jd.jpg


Wow quite a wave train in the EPAC, looks like the EPAC is going to rack up a lot of ACE over the next couple of weeks.
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Re: 2018 EPAC Season

#520 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:40 am

@RyanMaue
Models still forecasting Fabio to be one of the most beautiful hurricanes in the Eastern Pacific in 5-days or so.
#TropicalUpdate
Potential for Category 4.
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