2018 WPAC Season
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Very strong long range...
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
I have seen some on social media having issues with the next storm name here in the WPac, which is "Maria". We all know of the powerful and devastating Maria of last year's Atlantic Hurricane Season.
WMO has removed some names from the WPac naming list before due to some other reasons, such as religion-related and misspellings. The name "Vicente" was even removed/replaced to avoid potential confusion since that name also appears on the EPac naming list.
I agree that the name Maria in the WPac (and in any other basin, if there is) should be skipped/removed/replaced. What do the others think?
By the way, the name has been contributed by the USA.
WMO has removed some names from the WPac naming list before due to some other reasons, such as religion-related and misspellings. The name "Vicente" was even removed/replaced to avoid potential confusion since that name also appears on the EPac naming list.
I agree that the name Maria in the WPac (and in any other basin, if there is) should be skipped/removed/replaced. What do the others think?
By the way, the name has been contributed by the USA.
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
For me is very easy to answer.No more Maria naming in other basins after what occured in Dominica and where I am.
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I also agree with that. Surprisingly, in the EPac basin, "Yolanda" is on the list and we remember how destructive and powerful Yolanda was when it slammed into central Philippines.
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
It's getting to be that time of year. Climatologically speaking, the Mei-yu clears out in early July, which coincides with a large jump in ACE and PDI as we head towards the heart of the WPac season.
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
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Indications in the ECMWF EPS for a strong typhoon to spin up over the West Pacific later this week into next week. Also take note of the recurvature of Typhoon Prapiroon over the next few days.
https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1013517480998957059
Indications in the ECMWF EPS for a strong typhoon to spin up over the West Pacific later this week into next week. Also take note of the recurvature of Typhoon Prapiroon over the next few days.
https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1013517480998957059
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JoshwaDone wrote:anyways 10 days from now
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https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... pac_41.png
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Yup Pre-Maria. Thread is here.
91W THREAD
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Son-Tinh keeps getting pushed back but still there...
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:I have seen some on social media having issues with the next storm name here in the WPac, which is "Maria". We all know of the powerful and devastating Maria of last year's Atlantic Hurricane Season.
WMO has removed some names from the WPac naming list before due to some other reasons, such as religion-related and misspellings. The name "Vicente" was even removed/replaced to avoid potential confusion since that name also appears on the EPac naming list.
I agree that the name Maria in the WPac (and in any other basin, if there is) should be skipped/removed/replaced. What do the others think?
By the way, the name has been contributed by the USA.
I say NO. Maria has been used in the WPAC since 2000...Long before the tragedy...
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
euro6208 wrote:Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:I have seen some on social media having issues with the next storm name here in the WPac, which is "Maria". We all know of the powerful and devastating Maria of last year's Atlantic Hurricane Season.
WMO has removed some names from the WPac naming list before due to some other reasons, such as religion-related and misspellings. The name "Vicente" was even removed/replaced to avoid potential confusion since that name also appears on the EPac naming list.
I agree that the name Maria in the WPac (and in any other basin, if there is) should be skipped/removed/replaced. What do the others think?
By the way, the name has been contributed by the USA.
I say NO. Maria has been used in the WPAC since 2000...Long before the tragedy...
It should be removed. It's repetitive.
The name HAIYAN was used long before the tragedy too.
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
With el nino looming, can we finally get something traversing those untapped waters from the P.I sea to the dateline?
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:euro6208 wrote:Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:I have seen some on social media having issues with the next storm name here in the WPac, which is "Maria". We all know of the powerful and devastating Maria of last year's Atlantic Hurricane Season.
WMO has removed some names from the WPac naming list before due to some other reasons, such as religion-related and misspellings. The name "Vicente" was even removed/replaced to avoid potential confusion since that name also appears on the EPac naming list.
I agree that the name Maria in the WPac (and in any other basin, if there is) should be skipped/removed/replaced. What do the others think?
By the way, the name has been contributed by the USA.
I say NO. Maria has been used in the WPAC since 2000...Long before the tragedy...
It should be removed. It's repetitive.
The name HAIYAN was used long before the tragedy too.
I agree that it should be retired from all basin. (Universal retirement)
Anyway, I would just add one example of a retired Pacific Typhoon name that's being used in the Atlantic repetitively.
That award goes to Super Typhoon Karen of 1962 ( the most devastating and powerful typhoon ever to affect the island of Guam)
Despite the name being retired in WPAC, it's still being used in the Atlantic (5 times already since 1989 - mostly on weak, pathetic storms).
Maybe the rationale is that Maria is not memorable and damaging enough in the WPAC basin to be retired - same goes for Karen in the Atlantic.
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
I personally have no preference. I think the geographic distance (literally half way around the world) may alleviate some of the notoriety issues associated with the name, but I would completely understand if it were removed.
The case is a little different from a name like Vicente, which resides on the EPac lists. It's rare, but EPac systems have the potential to cross into the WPac, which leads to the potential for two storms of the same name to exist in the same basin and season. 1997 actually had a duplicate name exist between the two sides of the Pacific (Linda), though thankfully they kept to their sides of the International Date Line.
The case is a little different from a name like Vicente, which resides on the EPac lists. It's rare, but EPac systems have the potential to cross into the WPac, which leads to the potential for two storms of the same name to exist in the same basin and season. 1997 actually had a duplicate name exist between the two sides of the Pacific (Linda), though thankfully they kept to their sides of the International Date Line.
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Especially since this (10W) is threatening land and may be strong, I wish they would skip to "Son-Tinh" or use another name provided by the USA. It would be odd and rather confusing to have two major storms named "Maria" within a year of each other, in my humble opinion.
I was glad that the South Pacific decided not to use "Odile" in 2015 and changed the name to "Ola" instead, given that there was a destructive Hurricane Odile in the Eastern Pacific the prior year. Of course, they (Fiji) have changed a number of names to the name of the SPac replacement list for no stated reason lately (at least that I know of) but I was glad for that one and wish the JMA would do something similar here. We shall see...
I was glad that the South Pacific decided not to use "Odile" in 2015 and changed the name to "Ola" instead, given that there was a destructive Hurricane Odile in the Eastern Pacific the prior year. Of course, they (Fiji) have changed a number of names to the name of the SPac replacement list for no stated reason lately (at least that I know of) but I was glad for that one and wish the JMA would do something similar here. We shall see...
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
I'm not 100% sure of this, but I don't think the JMA has explicit control of the names on the list, just when they are used. I believe the Typhoon Committee has that power. The way names are retired probably wouldn't allow an in-season name retirement for a case like this. The Typhoon Committee meets once a year to retire a name, but a replacement name isn't picked until a year later (reference this thread). Even if Maria was retired at the last meeting, a replacement name wouldn't be ready. There is no alternate naming list either, and skipping a name outright would be skipping a country's contribution, which could be tricky from a political slant.
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Re: 2018 WPAC Season
IMO the US should have proposed to retire the name "Maira" during the last Typhoon Committee's meeting and submitted a new name immediately. That's what happened to Vicente as well IIRC. Since the US have not done so, however, we are stuck with Maria being the next name rn.
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Did not know that, thanks for that info.
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