Tropical Wave over the SE Bahamas (Is INVEST 91L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#861 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:09 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:I mean in as little as 24hrs the Euro is very close to closing off.


Put negative developmental factors aside, I can see why. There is noticeable churn winding up right now.

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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#862 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:12 pm

Stronger than 12z yesterday and notably WSW of the 12Z position. Click “72” and then toggle previous and current run.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0112&fh=72

Ridge is similar but the trough across New Mexico is farther east on this run at 500mb Height & Anomaly. Again click 72 and the previous/next
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 112&fh=120
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#863 Postby ronyan » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:14 pm

I get 16 mph average between the euro 48hr and 72hr positions calculating based on approximate coordinates.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#864 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:15 pm

Would be hard to imagine in 36hours there is an open wave with hurricane force winds.. I the euro suggesting some rapid spin up here...

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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#865 Postby Siker » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:16 pm

Where are people getting that it’s stronger than the 00z? Tropical Tidbits plots make it look weaker except in the first 48 hours.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#866 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:16 pm

ForexTidbits wrote:Hour 72 faster and stronger than the 00Z run


Is weaker than last night's 0z run but stronger than yesterday's 12z run.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#867 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:16 pm

96 hours how over Lafourche Parish SW of New Orleans whereas 12z yesterday was across Lake Pontchartrain.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0112&fh=96
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#868 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:17 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Would be hard to imagine in 36hours there is an open wave with hurricane force winds.. I the euro suggesting some rapid spin up here...

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Keep in mind that's h925 and kph not mph.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#869 Postby Siker » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:17 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Would be hard to imagine in 36hours there is an open wave with hurricane force winds.. I the euro suggesting some rapid spin up here...

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That’s kph, not mph.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#870 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:17 pm

And 51 hours.

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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#871 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:18 pm

Siker wrote:Where are people getting that it’s stronger than the 00z? Tropical Tidbits plots make it look weaker except in the first 48 hours.


Toggle the runs as noted in 72 hour post. It’s low res but you can see more isobars (dark blacker circle) indicating a stronger system. I don’t have high res access so I can just go by what TT maps show. Also check out the wind flag plots. Maybe that’s what they call barbs? You have more bars on the 12z in several places near the system than at 00z.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#872 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:18 pm

Siker wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Would be hard to imagine in 36hours there is an open wave with hurricane force winds.. I the euro suggesting some rapid spin up here...

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That’s kph, not mph.


hehe so it is.. lol my bad

so 40mph
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#873 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:19 pm

Weaker and a little further south, strengthening on approach.

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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#874 Postby Siker » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:20 pm

Steve wrote:
Siker wrote:Where are people getting that it’s stronger than the 00z? Tropical Tidbits plots make it look weaker except in the first 48 hours.


Toggle the runs as noted in 72 hour post. It’s low res but you can see more isobars (dark blacker circle) indicating a stronger system. I don’t have high res access so I can just go by what TY maps show.


But if you’re using the toggle tool (the arrows) that’s yesterday’s 12z run, not the 00z. Landfall on this run is 993mb vs. 985mb on the 00z.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas: 2 PM TWO=10%/40%

#875 Postby Clearcloudz » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:21 pm

NDG wrote:
ForexTidbits wrote:Hour 72 faster and stronger than the 00Z run


Is weaker than last night's 0z run but stronger than yesterday's 12z run.


sorry got a little ahead myself there. Your right.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#876 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:24 pm

Siker wrote:
Steve wrote:
Siker wrote:Where are people getting that it’s stronger than the 00z? Tropical Tidbits plots make it look weaker except in the first 48 hours.


Toggle the runs as noted in 72 hour post. It’s low res but you can see more isobars (dark blacker circle) indicating a stronger system. I don’t have high res access so I can just go by what TY maps show.


But if you’re using the toggle tool (the arrows) that’s yesterday’s 12z run, not the 00z. Landfall on this run is 993mb vs. 985mb on the 00z.


You’re right. I flubbed that up last year too. I forgot the next/prev goes back to the prior run for the same timeframe. My bad. Stronger than 12z yesterday, luckily weaker than last night’s 00z.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#877 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:30 pm

This run is probably coming in a tad weaker than the 0z because it’s moving faster so it has less time over water.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#878 Postby Dylan » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:31 pm

If the European is correct, we should be able to watch this develop on the Key West radar on Sunday night into Monday morning.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#879 Postby srainhoutx » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:32 pm

Starting to see a trend here as the models try and resolve the strength of the Mid Latitude Ridge. Seeing multiple runs from various model solutions except for the GFS showing a turn back W and WSW. That should raise an eyebrow.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Turks & Caicos/SE Bahamas

#880 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:34 pm

The ridge that’s building into the N. Plains is what’s sending this back west to sw over Texas and then gets caught in weak steering currents.
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