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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#241 Postby chaser1 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:48 pm

Seeing the EURO and CMC showing a similar track and intensity feels like i'm living in some alternate reality LOL
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#242 Postby chaser1 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:49 pm

Confirming that alternate reality would be if Bing BOT or Google BOT actually chimed in on Florence's forecast track!!!
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#243 Postby PandaCitrus » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:25 pm

Joe Bastardi on twitter is alluding to the 1933 Norfolk/DC Hurricane.

 https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/1036424906265776129




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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#244 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:31 pm

Blown Away wrote:Image
12z ECMWF...
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12z CMC...

That would be pretty bad...going up the west side of the bay...that would push a lot of water with a storm surge
With water temps in that area as high as they are, it would probably not weaken as the 1933 hurricane did
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#245 Postby toad strangler » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:34 pm

00z GFS Initialized a touch N and 2mb deeper than 18z
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#246 Postby chaser1 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:42 pm

toad strangler wrote:00z GFS Initialized a touch N and 2mb deeper than 18z


Might just be an indication of a forecast run causing Florence to veer a bit more poleward (at least during the initial 96 hours?)
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#247 Postby toad strangler » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:46 pm

00z GFS slightly NW over 18z through 48 hours
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#248 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:05 pm

Seeing such a strong ridge there makes it hard to see a recurve...and 1933 is one that I thought of too.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#249 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:06 pm

toad strangler wrote:00z GFS slightly NW over 18z through 48 hours


The only difference that’s not really negligible is this is moving a little bit faster this run at 96 hrs compared to 18z at 90hrs
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#250 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:11 pm

Looks like the ridge doesn’t capture this this run
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#251 Postby toad strangler » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:14 pm

What was a strong ridge early is melting away once again on this 00z GFS run
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#252 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:14 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like the ridge doesn’t capture this this run


Breaks it down at hour 126...but enough for an escape hatch?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#253 Postby toad strangler » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:20 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like the ridge doesn’t capture this this run


Breaks it down at hour 126...but enough for an escape hatch?


Huge gap to the N and a seemingly easy escape at 150
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#254 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:20 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like the ridge doesn’t capture this this run


Breaks it down at hour 126...but enough for an escape hatch?

Also could be the model bias of breaking down ridges to much and amplifying troughs too much, here’s the thing when all the other models have a strong ridge while the GFS doesn’t 90 out of 100 times you go with the other models especially looking at history like Sandy when all the models were landfalling in the mid Atlantic states the GFS was out to sea so when I see all the other models close to US landfall and the GFS up and out while I won’t disregard the GFS it could be up to its old tricks
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#255 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:28 pm

Have a feeling the GFS ensembles will be significantly farther west than the operational based on pattern
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#256 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:31 pm

The 0zGFS shows the ridge starting to rebuild north of Florence sending it on a wnw path at 186
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#257 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:38 pm

Man is it motoring right into the ridge...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#258 Postby storm4u » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:39 pm

0z Canadian hits north carolina
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#259 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:41 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:Man is it motoring right into the ridge...

It actually isn’t, use the 500 level for steering as the GFS has this going into Bermuda and out afterwards if the 500mb map is true
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#260 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:43 pm

This run is 400 to 500 miles east of the 18zGFS
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