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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1341 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:44 am

Rapid scan showing a CCW rotating overshooting top.
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Really nice radial fingers on the cirrus north and west quads.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1342 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:46 am

SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...28.5N 86.8W
ABOUT 145 MI...235 KM ESE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...65 MPH...100 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 305 DEGREES AT 15 MPH...24 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1001 MB...29.56 INCHES
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Advisories

#1343 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:47 am

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Tropical Storm Gordon Advisory Number 9
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL072018
1000 AM CDT Tue Sep 04 2018

...OUTER RAINBANDS PRODUCING SQUALLY WEATHER ALONG THE COAST OF THE
WESTERN FLORIDA PANHANDLE...
...GORDON EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL TONIGHT AS A HURRICANE...


SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.5N 86.8W
ABOUT 145 MI...235 KM ESE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...65 MPH...100 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 305 DEGREES AT 15 MPH...24 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1001 MB...29.56 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

The Tropical Storm Warning has been discontinued west of Grand
Isle, Louisiana.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for...
* Shell Beach to Dauphin Island

A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for...
* West of Shell Beach to the Mouth of the Mississippi River
* East of Dauphin Island to Navarre

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Mouth of the Pearl River to the Alabama-Florida Border

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* West of the Mouth of the Pearl River to Grand Isle, including Lake
Pontchartrain and Lake Maurepas
* Alabama-Florida Border to Okaloosa-Walton County Line

A Storm Surge Warning means there is a danger of life-threatening
inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline,
in the indicated locations. For a depiction of areas at risk, please
see the National Weather Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic,
available at hurricanes.gov. This is a life-threatening situation.
Persons located within these areas should take all necessary actions
to protect life and property from rising water and the potential for
other dangerous conditions. Promptly follow evacuation and other
instructions from local officials.

A Storm Surge Watch means there is a possibility of life-
threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the
coastline, in the indicated locations.

A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
somewhere within the warning area. Preparations to protect life
and property should be rushed to completion.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning areas.

For storm information specific to your area, including possible
inland watches and warnings, please monitor products issued by your
local National Weather Service forecast office.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 1000 AM CDT (1500 UTC), the center of Tropical Storm Gordon was
located near latitude 28.5 North, longitude 86.8 West. Gordon is
moving toward the northwest near 15 mph (24 km/h), and this general
motion is expected to continue until landfall occurs tonight along
the north-central Gulf coast. A northwestward motion with some
decrease in forward speed is expected after landfall, with a gradual
turn toward the north-northwest and north forecast to occur on
Friday. On the forecast track, the center of Gordon will move across
the northern Gulf of Mexico today, and will approach the north-
central Gulf Coast within the hurricane warning area late this
afternoon or evening, and move inland over the lower Mississippi
Valley tonight and early Wednesday.

Reports from NOAA and Air Force Reserve Unit reconnaissance
aircraft indicate that maximum sustained winds remain near 65 mph
(100 km/h) with higher gusts. Some strengthening is expected today,
and Gordon is forecast to be a hurricane when it makes landfall
along the north-central Gulf Coast. Rapid weakening is forecast
after Gordon moves inland.

Tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 80 miles (130 km)
from the center. NOAA Buoy 42039, located north of Gordon's center,
recently reported a sustained wind of 43 mph (69 km/h) and a gust
to 49 mph (80 km/h).

The minimum central pressure recently reported by a NOAA
reconnaissance aircraft was 1001 mb (29.56 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
STORM SURGE: The combination of a dangerous storm surge and the
tide will cause normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded by
rising waters moving inland from the shoreline. The water could
reach the following heights above ground somewhere in the indicated
areas if the peak surge occurs at the time of high tide...

Shell Beach to Dauphin Island...3 to 5 ft.
Navarre Florida to Dauphin Island, including Mobile Bay...2 to 4 ft.
Shell Beach to the Mouth of Mississippi River...2 to 4 ft.
Mouth of the Mississippi River to the Louisiana-Texas border...1 to
2 ft.

The deepest water will occur along the immediate coast near and to
the east of the landfall location, where the surge will be
accompanied by large waves. Surge-related flooding depends on the
relative timing of the surge and the tidal cycle, and can vary
greatly over short distances. For information specific to your area,
please see products issued by your local National Weather Service
forecast office.

RAINFALL: Gordon is expected to produce total rain accumulations of
4 to 8 inches over the western Florida Panhandle, southwest Alabama,
southern and central Mississippi, southeastern and northeastern
Louisiana, and southern Arkansas, with isolated maximum amounts of
12 inches through late Thursday. This rainfall will cause flash
flooding across portions of these areas.

WIND: Tropical storm conditions are expected to begin this
afternoon within portions of the warning area, with hurricane
conditions expected by this evening in the hurricane warning
area.

TORNADOES: A few tornadoes are possible this afternoon through
tonight near the coasts of Mississippi, Alabama, and the Florida
Panhandle.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next intermediate advisory at 100 PM CDT.
Next complete advisory at 400 PM CDT.

$$
Forecaster Stewart


Tropical Storm Gordon Discussion Number 9
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL072018
1000 AM CDT Tue Sep 04 2018

After an earlier disruption of the inner-core convection due to some
southerly wind shear, Gordon has since developed a band of deep
convection very near the well-defined center noted in both NOAA
GOES-16 high-resolution satellite imagery and coastal NOAA WSR-88D
Doppler radars. In addition, there has been a significant increase
in lightning activity during the past couple of hours in the inner
core, and Doppler radar velocities have increased to more than 45 kt
at 25,000 ft in the band of convection near the center. NOAA and Air
Force Reserve reconnaissance aircraft further indicate that Gordon
has maintained a small radius of maximum winds (RMW) of 10-15 nmi,
and that SFMR surface winds of 53-55 kt exist in the northeastern
quadrant. These data support an intensity of 55 kt.

The initial motion estimate is now toward the northwest at a
slightly slower forward, or 305/13 kt. There is basically no change
to the previous NHC forecast track reasoning. Reconnaissance fixes
continue to fall along the previous forecast track, and the latest
model guidance remains tightly packed and on top of the previous
NHC forecast. As a result, there is high confidence that Gordon will
make landfall along the north-central Gulf of Mexico coast in about
18 hours. After landfall, steering currents are forecast to weaken,
resulting in Gordon slowing down considerably, which will enhance
the heavy rainfall potential. By Friday, an approaching cold front
and associated mid-/upper-level trough are expected to break down
the subtropical ridge, allowing Gordon to turn northward and
eventually turn northeastward on Saturday and merge with the cold
front. The new official track forecast is near the model consensus
and essentially on top of the previous NHC track.

The aforementioned inner-core changes that have been occurring could
be a harbinger that Gordon is finally starting to intensify. Intense
lightning activity inside the small RMW is an indication of strong
updrafts, which can enhance the strengthening process. Although the
GFS and ECMWF models continue to forecast northwesterly shear of
10-15 kt, the explicit upper-level wind fields in the GFS, ECMWF,
and UKMET models indicate that the 200-mb flow is forecast to become
southeasterly and diffluent across Gordon in the next 12 h or so,
which would act to enhance the development of inner-core convection.
As result, the official intensity forecast maintains continuity and
shows Gordon becoming a hurricane before landfall, which is above
the guidance through that time. Once Gordon moves inland, the small
circulation should spin down fairly quickly, and that portion of the
forecast closely follows the various consensus-model intensity
guidance. By 120 h, Gordon's circulation is expected to merge with a
cold front over the Mississippi Valley region.

Key Messages:

1. Gordon is expected to bring life-threatening storm surge and
hurricane conditions to portions of the central Gulf Coast where a
Storm Surge Warning and Hurricane Warning are in effect. Residents
in these areas should listen to advice from their local officials.

2. Heavy rainfall from Gordon will affect the western Florida
Panhandle, southwest Alabama, southern and central Mississippi,
much of eastern Louisiana, and southern Arkansas, where totals could
reach as high as 12 inches. This rainfall will cause flash flooding
in portions of these areas.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 04/1500Z 28.5N 86.8W 55 KT 65 MPH
12H 05/0000Z 29.8N 88.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
24H 05/1200Z 31.5N 90.2W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
36H 06/0000Z 32.8N 91.6W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND
48H 06/1200Z 33.7N 92.7W 20 KT 25 MPH...INLAND
72H 07/1200Z 35.4N 94.3W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 08/1200Z 37.7N 93.8W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 09/1200Z 40.9N 90.7W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

$$
Forecaster Stewart
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1344 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:53 am

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Tropical Storm Gordon Discussion Number 9
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL072018
1000 AM CDT Tue Sep 04 2018

After an earlier disruption of the inner-core convection due to some
southerly wind shear, Gordon has since developed a band of deep
convection very near the well-defined center noted in both NOAA
GOES-16 high-resolution satellite imagery and coastal NOAA WSR-88D
Doppler radars. In addition, there has been a significant increase
in lightning activity during the past couple of hours in the inner
core, and Doppler radar velocities have increased to more than 45 kt
at 25,000 ft in the band of convection near the center. NOAA and Air
Force Reserve reconnaissance aircraft further indicate that Gordon
has maintained a small radius of maximum winds (RMW) of 10-15 nmi,
and that SFMR surface winds of 53-55 kt exist in the northeastern
quadrant. These data support an intensity of 55 kt.

The initial motion estimate is now toward the northwest at a
slightly slower forward, or 305/13 kt. There is basically no change
to the previous NHC forecast track reasoning. Reconnaissance fixes
continue to fall along the previous forecast track, and the latest
model guidance remains tightly packed and on top of the previous
NHC forecast. As a result, there is high confidence that Gordon will
make landfall along the north-central Gulf of Mexico coast in about
18 hours. After landfall, steering currents are forecast to weaken,
resulting in Gordon slowing down considerably, which will enhance
the heavy rainfall potential. By Friday, an approaching cold front
and associated mid-/upper-level trough are expected to break down
the subtropical ridge, allowing Gordon to turn northward and
eventually turn northeastward on Saturday and merge with the cold
front. The new official track forecast is near the model consensus
and essentially on top of the previous NHC track.

The aforementioned inner-core changes that have been occurring could
be a harbinger that Gordon is finally starting to intensify. Intense
lightning activity inside the small RMW is an indication of strong
updrafts, which can enhance the strengthening process. Although the
GFS and ECMWF models continue to forecast northwesterly shear of
10-15 kt, the explicit upper-level wind fields in the GFS, ECMWF,
and UKMET models indicate that the 200-mb flow is forecast to become
southeasterly and diffluent across Gordon in the next 12 h or so,
which would act to enhance the development of inner-core convection.
As result, the official intensity forecast maintains continuity and
shows Gordon becoming a hurricane before landfall, which is above
the guidance through that time. Once Gordon moves inland, the small
circulation should spin down fairly quickly, and that portion of the
forecast closely follows the various consensus-model intensity
guidance. By 120 h, Gordon's circulation is expected to merge with a
cold front over the Mississippi Valley region.

Key Messages:

1. Gordon is expected to bring life-threatening storm surge and
hurricane conditions to portions of the central Gulf Coast where a
Storm Surge Warning and Hurricane Warning are in effect. Residents
in these areas should listen to advice from their local officials.

2. Heavy rainfall from Gordon will affect the western Florida
Panhandle, southwest Alabama, southern and central Mississippi,
much of eastern Louisiana, and southern Arkansas, where totals could
reach as high as 12 inches. This rainfall will cause flash flooding
in portions of these areas.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 04/1500Z 28.5N 86.8W 55 KT 65 MPH
12H 05/0000Z 29.8N 88.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
24H 05/1200Z 31.5N 90.2W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
36H 06/0000Z 32.8N 91.6W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND
48H 06/1200Z 33.7N 92.7W 20 KT 25 MPH...INLAND
72H 07/1200Z 35.4N 94.3W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 08/1200Z 37.7N 93.8W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 09/1200Z 40.9N 90.7W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

$$
Forecaster Stewart
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1345 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:53 am

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1346 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:59 am

48 knot SFMR in northwest quad unflagged. Beginning to organize.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1347 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:59 am

That is so interesting about the lightning in the core. Probably be enough to push to hurricane status before landfall.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1348 Postby hipshot » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:00 am

When did the storm graphics at the top of the page get fixed? Just got back from running errands and noticed it.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1349 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:02 am

One thing that recon is telling us is that there is a big difference between "max sustained wind" and "average sustained wind" in this storm. There is a tiny pocket of higher wind east of the center (45-50 kts - 50-60 mph). However most wind speeds north and east of the center are in the 30-40 kt range (35-45 mph). There's very little wind west and southwest of the center and maybe 20-25 kts (25-30 mph) NW of the center. Such a disorganized storm will not carry the stronger winds very far inland.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1350 Postby drezee » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:04 am

drezee Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:20 am wrote: Gordon is not vertically stacked. Which is great news.. if it was watch out. Not enough time to restock at current forward speed. There would have to be quite a massive tower in the MLC to suck it back in.

Well that just happen while I was gone. Wxman57, this is what I was talking about...
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1351 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:05 am

Deep convection starting wrap around the center.
Convective Inhibition in the clear on the coast.
Fat lady is getting on stage, doesn't look too pretty.


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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1352 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:07 am

The low level flow is stretching out the western portion of the circulation. looks like an oval to the west. inflow is being inhibited. It will take some sustained convection for awhile to get this organized. all that convection around the center has died again. so looks like a pulsing TS for landfall. unless something changes quickly.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1353 Postby bella_may » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:11 am

New NHC shows a good chance of sustained TS winds pretty far inland in MS
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1354 Postby bella_may » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:12 am

Aric Dunn wrote:The low level flow is stretching out the western portion of the circulation. looks like an oval to the west. inflow is being inhibited. It will take some sustained convection for awhile to get this organized. all that convection around the center has died again. so looks like a pulsing TS for landfall. unless something changes quickly.


Forecast didn’t project it becoming a hurricane until around 1pm today. It’s not too far away
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1355 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:14 am

Globals were not that far off. Still a TS but thanks to the timely ULL the gulf coast will be spared in terms of a major storm. Take it serious either way. Even TSs kill people.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1356 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:16 am

NHC says Gordon will be a hurricane at landfall, so I believe those in his path should expect a hurricane at landfall. After all they are the experts right....just sayin’.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1357 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:17 am

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1358 Postby bella_may » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:17 am

@hurrtrackerapp

It looks like #Gordon has moved into a favorable environment. Clouds around the center are thickening and outflow now moving south of the center. Signs of possible strengthening.

Lol nvm GC cane beat me to it :)
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1359 Postby MGC » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:20 am

That recent burst of convection has possibly pulled the center more NW. I would expect a more WNW track to resume later. Yeah, just when you think Gordon is on a downward trend he surprises you with a burst of convection near the COC. Going to go harass Jim Cantore soon..lol...MGC
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1360 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:26 am

the center is once again having only shallow convection. It would have to be pulled to the NE into the deeper convection for anything to happen. so far continues to outrun the convection. if that changes with this "perceived" lighter shear than it still has a chance to reach hurricane status.

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