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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2681 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:16 pm

Hammy wrote:Completely stalled at 144 hour

I smell a move to the south looking at the GFS ridge patterns and it all depends on the shape and size of the loop
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2682 Postby Ken711 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:17 pm

Is it even possible to stall like that in that location?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2683 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:17 pm

Ken711 wrote:Is it even possible to stall like that in that location?

See Hurricane Harvey, 2017.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2684 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:18 pm

shah83 wrote:CMC sticking to its guns.


It’s somewhat north at 72.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2685 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:18 pm

shah83 wrote:CMC sticking to its guns.


Wasn't it way south with Harvey too if I remember right?

Ken711 wrote:Is it even possible to stall like that in that location?


Storms stalling over or near NC isn't particularly uncommon, strangely enough.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2686 Postby PandaCitrus » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:21 pm

I don't think a Category 5 Hurricane stalling off the Outer Banks for DAYS dumping god knows how many feet of rain on coastal NC and VA with multiple storm surge tide cycles can be considered good.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2687 Postby wxmann_91 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:22 pm

LarryWx wrote:Wow, 0Z UKMET never gets west of 75.2W and is way east of prior run (200+ miles)!! UKMET has been awful for Flo.

Remember when everyone was treating the UKMET like gospel? :lol:
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2688 Postby Ken711 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:22 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
Ken711 wrote:Is it even possible to stall like that in that location?

See Hurricane Harvey, 2017.


For 48 hours in the same location though?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2689 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:22 pm

It's horrible to take one model run for granted. Especially with the GFS which is an eastern outlier right now. Now if the other models and the Euro come around to this? Then I'd feel more comfortable in saying maybe a direct landfall isn't happening. But for right now? Just be on your guard and get prepared if you're in the path...Better to be safe than sorry.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2690 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:24 pm

Don't be the guy who lived on Mt St Helens...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2691 Postby bob rulz » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:24 pm

Ken711 wrote:Is it even possible to stall like that in that location?


It's possible for a storm to stall basically anywhere.

When does the next Euro run begin?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2692 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:25 pm

bob rulz wrote:
Ken711 wrote:Is it even possible to stall like that in that location?


It's possible for a storm to stall basically anywhere.

When does the next Euro run begin?


2am Eastern time.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2693 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:25 pm

Seems to me with Florence just sitting and spinning in the same area for 3 days, the upwelling would weaken the system and the land interaction as well...I don't see how it would just continually get stronger and stronger as the hours go by.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2694 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:25 pm

Ken711 wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
Ken711 wrote:Is it even possible to stall like that in that location?

See Hurricane Harvey, 2017.


For 48 hours in the same location though?


Longer than that. 180 is strongest so far. 908mb and a bit up the coast vs 937 and SW last run.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 900&fh=180
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2695 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:26 pm

And just like that at hour 180 its moving west towards north carolina lmao wow. moving slowly of course but towards it
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2696 Postby PandaCitrus » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:26 pm

Now going on 72 hours of stall right off Outer Banks.

I'm sorry THIS IS NOT A GOOD SCENARIO FOR NORTH CAROLINA.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2697 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:27 pm

Keep in mind the GFS doesn't model ocean coupling well/if at all. This wouldn't be a Cat 5, this would be a weakening hurricane due to upwelling. Huge rainfall situation though.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2698 Postby Ken711 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:27 pm

It's strengthening to 909 but wouldn't be weakening that close to the mainland for that long a period?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2699 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:27 pm

:uarrow: Slow move towards NC with 906mb pressure no less.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#2700 Postby bob rulz » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:27 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:Seems to me with Florence just sitting and spinning in the same area for 3 days, the upwelling would weaken the system and the land interaction as well...I don't see how it would just continually get stronger and stronger as the hours go by.


As far as I know, models can't properly incorporate upwelling into their intensity forecasts.
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