ATL: FLORENCE - Models

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3661 Postby Ken711 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:04 pm

FV3-GFS landfalls north of the 12z.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3662 Postby dspguy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:04 pm

Fishing wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:the gfs is a little faster with the sw movement. keeps it stronger throughout.


What are we looking at if it landfalls in Charleston? We are here and stayed for Hugo. Definitely do not want to do that again.

I sort of asked that earlier - if it stayed off-the-coast for about 3 days, how much weaker would the storm be? I know there's warm water, but I figure the interaction with land would have to slow it down. And before someone says it, of course I'd be worried about rain accumulation over that span of time. Speaking for myself, wind speed is what concerns me.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3663 Postby dspguy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:06 pm

Ken711 wrote:FV3-GFS landfalls north of the 12z.


Next frame, it appears to nudge south. That might be the stall and the start of the ride down the coast that the Euro and GFS showed us earlier.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3664 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Doesn't appear to make a full landfall, eye gets about half way on the coast then backs away.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3665 Postby Ken711 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:12 pm

tolakram wrote:Doesn't appear to make a full landfall, eye gets about half way on the coast then backs away.


Looking closer I agree.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3666 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:13 pm

It's going to end up with a solution similar to the Euro and GFS. Crazy.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3667 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:16 pm

GFS and Euro in agreement so far.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3668 Postby tallywx » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:18 pm

tolakram wrote:It's going to end up with a solution similar to the Euro and GFS. Crazy.


Details please. I'm only seeing out through 90hrs when it's still stalled slightly SW of Cape Fear.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3669 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:23 pm

18z HWRF

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3670 Postby PandaCitrus » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:30 pm

GFS FV3 has a second landfall around Charleston SC.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3671 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:30 pm

the models that turn wsw and sw faster or come to a stall by slamming on their brakes are still coming in as a cat 4 .. hwrf coming in as a strong cat 4 at the 10m winds hight and 160kts at the 850 mb hight.

dont let your guard down with the current intensity forecast.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3672 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:31 pm

tallywx wrote:
tolakram wrote:It's going to end up with a solution similar to the Euro and GFS. Crazy.


Details please. I'm only seeing out through 90hrs when it's still stalled slightly SW of Cape Fear.


18Z FV3-GFS (incomplete)

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3673 Postby PTPatrick » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:32 pm

Early Sunday GFS FV3 at 108 hrs is pretty much a Charleston hit like GFS. Showing a pressure of 981 tho which means it doesn’t thing cat 3 strength will hold in the area. It also shows some rising prsssure on approach on to Wilmington area in the 960s there. Incedently it appaears to make an actual andfall at Wilmington so that could explain the extra loss of strength for Charleston
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3674 Postby Ken711 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:37 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:GFS FV3 has a second landfall around Charleston SC.

http://wx.graphics/models/fv3gfs_florence.png


That's very similar to the 12z Euro track.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3675 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:40 pm

FV3-GFS 18z complete end of run

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3676 Postby PandaCitrus » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:53 pm

The full run of the HWRF is terrible for South Carolina. Landfall in Myrtle Beach and then plows west into South Carolina and Georgia.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 91118&fh=6
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3677 Postby GTStorm » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:14 pm

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0Z early guidance
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3678 Postby crimi481 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:16 pm

Would you say this is a model trend? s.w
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3679 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:21 pm

NHC will have but no option but to shift the track SW closer to the TVCN, GFS and Euro after day 2.5-5 day range.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3680 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:22 pm

TVCN (Grey Line) buying into the SW movement just offshore...
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