ATL: FLORENCE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2761 Postby dukeblue219 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:49 pm

hurricaneCW wrote:I want to get some recon in this soon, pretty sure it's a bit stronger than 140 mph right now even with the dry air on the SW side.


Another 20 minutes or so... looks like they'll cross SW to NE on this pass.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2762 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:49 pm

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2763 Postby bamajammer4eva » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:52 pm

beoumont wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:Can anyone think of any historical hurricanes that did what the 12z Euro and 18z GFS are showing? The only one that is somewhat similar that I can find is Betsy in 1965 but she was much farther south.


Not the same approach, but a collapse of steering currents and a loop just before landfall: Diana, 1984

[url]https://www.weather.gov/images/mhx/19840913/image002.jpg


Heres another one-if you just slide it a few hundred miles north, it looks very similar to what the Euro is showing and a similar setup

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2764 Postby drezee » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:58 pm

Early recon says wind field has expanded in the SW quad...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Recon Discussion

#2765 Postby dukeblue219 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:58 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:That's pretty amazing, that boat was going to be toast in a short period of time. Just outside the outer bands and they would have had to go a long way to avoid it, I don't think they would have made it even if they realized they had to move.


I haven't seen anything that suggests the sailors were actually "rescued" per se. Certainly the WC-130D didn't pick them up. I was assuming they just located the boat and then radioed down "Get the F out of the way, morons!"

Ok, found another set of tweets from a Met who said "The Air Force spoke with them. They didn’t want help and are speeding out of the path."
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Recon Discussion

#2766 Postby Kazmit » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:58 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:That's pretty amazing, that boat was going to be toast in a short period of time. Just outside the outer bands and they would have had to go a long way to avoid it, I don't think they would have made it even if they realized they had to move.

I don't understand how they didn't know about the category 4 hurricane nearby. As a sailor, checking on weather should be top priority.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2767 Postby AnnularCane » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:00 pm




Florence looks EXACTLY like an embryo.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2768 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:01 pm

AnnularCane wrote:



Florence looks EXACTLY like an embryo.

Thanks alot...how am I ever supposed to unsee that?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2769 Postby drezee » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:02 pm

drezee wrote:Early recon says wind field has expanded in the SW quad...

Hurricane force actually
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2770 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:04 pm

Latest pass: 943 mb extrapolated
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2771 Postby Blinhart » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:05 pm

drezee wrote:
drezee wrote:Early recon says wind field has expanded in the SW quad...

Hurricane force actually


Just what no one on the East Coast wants to hear, that the wind field is expanding even more.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2772 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:06 pm

Pressure is down to around 945mb +-1mb

005930 2754N 06814W 6968 02669 9432 +181 +062 107010 011 024 000 00
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2773 Postby dukeblue219 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:06 pm

Pressure is down, but winds (in the weaker side) were only 91kt FL and 100kt on the SFMR. Will wait for the other side of the eyewall now... and any dropsondes as well.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2774 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:08 pm

Recon may find windspeed in NE eyewall close to the advisory intensity. No surprise that SW eyewall is weak due to the dry air intrusion just occurred.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2775 Postby hurricaneCW » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:08 pm

dukeblue219 wrote:Pressure is down, but winds (in the weaker side) were only 91kt FL and 100kt on the SFMR. Will wait for the other side of the eyewall now... and any dropsondes as well.


Guessing that's due to the wind expansion.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2776 Postby canetracker » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:08 pm

tolakram wrote:
canetracker wrote:Is that black colored area dry air in the center of this IR loop???
https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?parms=meso-meso1-14-48-1-100-1&checked=latlon-map&colorbar=undefined


Click the globe and turn on the temperature color bar overlay. Those are super cold cloud tops, colder than red.


Thanks!
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2777 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:13 pm

Strongest FL winds in the NE eyewall are around 126 kts, with 105 kts SFMR
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2778 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:14 pm

Extratropical94 wrote:Strongest FL winds in the NE eyewall are around 126 kts, with 105 kts SFMR


No way this is still a Cat 4 based on that, which is good news.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2779 Postby drezee » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:15 pm

Recon: Winds in NE quad are at 105kts surface and at 126kts flight level
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#2780 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:15 pm

126 knot flight level winds is the highest so far, seems like it has not really gotten any stronger during the past few hours.

010500 2808N 06759W 6963 02807 9633 +119 +063 140122 126 105 000 03
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