ATL: FLORENCE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3441 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:25 pm

This will be an awful event, but Cat 2/3 winds much better outcome then Cat 4/5... Carolinas can survive a Cat 3... JMHO...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3442 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:25 pm

A giant storm, with an eye, with a recon plan IN the storm ... come on people, let's not overreact to everything we hear.

So where did you get these raw T numbers?
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3443 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:25 pm

The texans squabble over every frame, its really tough to deal with
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ConvergenceZone wrote:Watching the weather channel now with the live updates. This forum doesn't seem to be near as active as it normally is when a hurricane is heading for US land........Usually you can't even keep up with the posts....But not with Florence.
if it was a florida or texas system it would be buzzing, more peeps on this board from those locations
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Yep, we would have 75 posts debating every 15 minute sat update over whether it is a wobble or a trend...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3444 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:25 pm

Wow, recon doesn't even find hurricane force winds on the SE quadrant, per SFMR.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3445 Postby Vdogg » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:26 pm

Is it me or does the storm seem far closer than it should be at this point? When does the slowdown happen?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3446 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:26 pm

Vdogg wrote:
PavelGaborik10 wrote:This looks more like a Nor Easter at this point than a Major Hurricane.

It has the windfield of a Noreaster, and that's why we got hammered in SeVA with Matthew a few years ago. It went through extratropical transition and the windfield expanded greatly. It also cane 100 miles further north than forecast.

My thought too but the waters are way to warm for that to occur right now??
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3447 Postby Hammy » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:27 pm

cjrciadt wrote:Raw T down to 2.8?!?!
This can't be transitioning to Post Tropical right?!
Sorry for sounding nuts lol!


Was this meant for the Isaac board? :lol:

Vdogg wrote:Is it me or does the storm seem far closer than it should be at this point? When does the slowdown happen?


Probably because it's been out there for so long moving in the direction it is. Most of the time we're used to seeing storms moving north where this is at, not W/NW.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3448 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:28 pm

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/adt/odt06L.html
tolakram wrote:A giant storm, with an eye, with a recon plan IN the storm ... come on people, let's not overreact to everything we hear.

So where did you get these raw T numbers?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3449 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:28 pm

cjrciadt wrote:
Vdogg wrote:
PavelGaborik10 wrote:This looks more like a Nor Easter at this point than a Major Hurricane.

It has the windfield of a Noreaster, and that's why we got hammered in SeVA with Matthew a few years ago. It went through extratropical transition and the windfield expanded greatly. It also cane 100 miles further north than forecast.

My thought too but the waters are way to warm for that to occur right now??


Seriously, and with all due respect, what in the world are you looking at? :)
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3450 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:28 pm

Could this only be cat 1 at landfall/closest approach to NC? Crazy what a day makes, or frankly, even 6 hours.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3451 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:29 pm

cjrciadt wrote:http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/adt/odt06L.html
tolakram wrote:A giant storm, with an eye, with a recon plan IN the storm ... come on people, let's not overreact to everything we hear.

So where did you get these raw T numbers?


5.0 Final. Raw probably failed due to the missing southern half.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3452 Postby PandaCitrus » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:30 pm

While everyone is dancing on Florence's grave, she's looking the best she has in many hours. Very heavy convection fully wrapped around the eye and some of the south end of the storm is filling back in.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3453 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:30 pm

tolakram wrote:
cjrciadt wrote:http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/adt/odt06L.html
tolakram wrote:A giant storm, with an eye, with a recon plan IN the storm ... come on people, let's not overreact to everything we hear.

So where did you get these raw T numbers?


5.0 Final. Raw probably failed due to the missing southern half.

Yup like a pizza missing a slice or three! :lol:
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3454 Postby GeneratorPower » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:32 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:While everyone is dancing on Florence's grave, she's looking the best she has in many hours. Very heavy convection fully wrapped around the eye and some of the south end of the storm is filling back in.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/images/goes16_ir_06L_201809130113.jpg


There is definitely some chicanery going on with shear and/or pseudoERC going on. She could mix it all out and come back up in wind speed. These disruptions do serve to expand the wind field.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3455 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:32 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Could this only be cat 1 at landfall/closest approach to NC? Crazy what a day makes, or frankly, even 6 hours.


Doubtful, but the wind field is huge so it won't make cat 4 or 5 IMO. Surge is going to be the big story with this large wind field.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3456 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:32 pm

Right now I would put the intensity at 85 kt given all the data. But there have been similar storms that have produced major disasters.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3457 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:33 pm

Big question is will the NHC downgrade Florence down to a Cat 2 at 11 PM, big decision for them to make. I say let's wait until 5 AM just in case it gets its act together during the night.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3458 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:33 pm

jlauderdal wrote:The texans squabble over every frame, its really tough to deal with
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jlauderdal wrote:if it was a florida or texas system it would be buzzing, more peeps on this board from those locations
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Yep, we would have 75 posts debating every 15 minute sat update over whether it is a wobble or a trend...

With 30-sec and 1-min rapid refreshing imagery, that's a lot of squabbling. :lol:
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3459 Postby Raebie » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:33 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:While everyone is dancing on Florence's grave, she's looking the best she has in many hours. Very heavy convection fully wrapped around the eye and some of the south end of the storm is filling back in.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/images/goes16_ir_06L_201809130113.jpg


Really bad time for her to get her act together too.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3460 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:36 pm

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