ATL: FLORENCE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4241 Postby Raebie » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:41 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:Outage Update - 2230z (only going to include >10,000 from now on)
North Carolina: 88,009
Florida (outflow thunderstorms): 17,782


What outflow thunderstorms in Florida? I'm not seeing any.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4242 Postby artist » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:42 pm

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Aircraft data confirms that no intensification is occurring with
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. If anything, Florence may be a category 1 hurricane based upon the aircraft data. However, due to its size, a devastating tidal surge is ongoing in North Carolina. Worst appears to be in New Bern
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4243 Postby wx98 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:42 pm

meriland29 wrote:What are the highest winds recon foind so far?

~92 FL and ~74 SFMR
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4244 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:42 pm

Looking like intensification is underway
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4245 Postby wx98 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:43 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:6mb drop...thing needs to move ashore or this will be a catastrophe

Recon measured 1 mb drop between passes
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4246 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:43 pm

artist wrote:Derek Ortt
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Aircraft data confirms that no intensification is occurring with
#Florence
. If anything, Florence may be a category 1 hurricane based upon the aircraft data. However, due to its size, a devastating tidal surge is ongoing in North Carolina. Worst appears to be in New Bern



Sounds good. Hope it verifies
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4247 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:43 pm



Thats 82 mph sustained, 97 mph gusts. I'd say hurricane force verified.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4248 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:44 pm

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4249 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:44 pm

wx98 wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:6mb drop...thing needs to move ashore or this will be a catastrophe

Recon measured 1 mb drop between passes


Yeah watch what you take as fact on twitter. I see that
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4250 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:44 pm

ronjon wrote:


Thats 82 mph sustained, 97 mph gusts. I'd say hurricane force verified at cape lookout
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4251 Postby abajan » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:46 pm

PavelGaborik10 wrote:It's pressure is dropping, but is there any sign of the winds increasing?

If the MSW aren't increasing, it may be getting bigger: conservation of angular momentum, I believe it's called. Or there could simply be a lag before it intensifies.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4252 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:48 pm

Small partial eye swimming around in the big eye.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4253 Postby meriland29 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:50 pm

tolakram wrote:Small partial eye swimming around in the big eye.

https://i.imgur.com/pL0Y7Oj.gif



Would that mean disruption or ERC?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4254 Postby Bunkertor » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:53 pm

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4255 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:53 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Bouy just offshore registered 115mph. Definately getting stronger

That's a gust, just for reference.

Before someone panics, lol.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4256 Postby Raebie » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:54 pm

I'm really surprised at the lack of tornados so far. Still too far offshore?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4257 Postby drezee » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:57 pm

Maybe a tornado hit this buoy...

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page. ... tion=41038

116kt gust!
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#4258 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:57 pm

Northest quad which is offshore
Raebie wrote:I'm really surprised at the lack of tornados so far. Still too far offshore?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4259 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:58 pm

meriland29 wrote:
tolakram wrote:Small partial eye swimming around in the big eye.

https://i.imgur.com/pL0Y7Oj.gif



Would that mean disruption or ERC?


The ERC never finished, and just like Ike, Florence is too big to really clear it out or intensify as far as wind speed goes. The wind field is expanding, meaning surge potential is rising. People keep focusing on raw wind speed which doesn't mean much of anything at this point. I liken it to water in a bathtub. Use only one finger and make a spinning motion as fast as you can, cat 5 speed, with just one finger. Now use your entire hand but go slower. You are moving a LOT more water.

I'm guilty of over comparing this to Ike, and Ike was in the gulf which can be more prone to surge because of the shape, but I feel like surge here along the coast is going to be really bad. Any drop in pressure most likely translates to a very small increase in wind speed over a very large area (rather than just a tiny eyewall).
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4260 Postby Raebie » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:59 pm

drezee wrote:Maybe a tornado hit this buoy...

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page. ... tion=41038

116kt gust!


Well there ya go. :-)
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