ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#641 Postby drezee » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:15 am

Michael is a special system. I see no reason to expect anything less than 115mph at landfall. New convective burst just in time for recon...

Either core has shifted East or the winds are not as strong in Nzw quad...
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#643 Postby Shell Mound » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:26 am

drezee wrote:Michael is a special system. I see no reason to expect anything less than 115mph at landfall. New convective burst just in time for recon...

Either core has shifted East or the winds are not as strong in Nzw quad...

Based on satellite trends, the last pass on this mission will likely find 10-m winds of 75 to 80 knots and pressures in the upper 960s or low 970s (mb)...

Given ongoing, Harvey-like deepening under less-than-ideal but improving conditions, I anticipate a major hurricane by early tomorrow morning.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#644 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:27 am

When will the watches be turned into warnings?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#645 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:29 am

DestinHurricane wrote:When will the watches be turned into warnings?


Probably at the 5PM advisory, if not that most assuredly the 11pm.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#646 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:30 am

I can't believe WFTV Orlando keeps showing the wrong forecast track, the one from yesterday which showed a track towards Destin. I tweeted Brian Shields about it but have not fixed it yet.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#647 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:30 am

This escalated quickly...not a sheared October tropical storm wxman?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#648 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:32 am



You are going to see my tweet back to him in which I asked him if he will give credit to the GFS for a change for smelling the improving UL conditions & strengthening forecast way before the Euro. 8-)
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#649 Postby jaxfladude » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:33 am

What are the possible impacts from Michael for Jacksonville, Florida area as of now as compared to just last nights better or worse?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#650 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:35 am

jaxfladude wrote:What are the possible impacts from Michael for Jacksonville, Florida area as of now as compared to just last nights better or worse?

Probably better that last nights since the track has shifted west but dont let your guard down.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#651 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:41 am

Latest recon finds its pressure holding steady.

113630 2052N 08505W 8429 01344 9828 +200 +115 163011 014 021 002 03
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#652 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:43 am

The coc keeps moving NNE, current fix is near 20.9N & 85.1W
Or maybe reforming around while the system gets together vertically.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#653 Postby KWT » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:43 am

NDG wrote:Latest recon finds its pressure holding steady.

113630 2052N 08505W 8429 01344 9828 +200 +115 163011 014 021 002 03
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Yeah the inner core needs to really kick into gear, once it does I expect another 20mbs quickly.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#655 Postby Emmett_Brown » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:44 am

Micheal's position looks to be NE of last nights final recon fix by about half a degree or so.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#656 Postby PSUHiker31 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:45 am

NDG wrote:The coc keeps moving NNE, current fix is near 20.9N & 85.1W
Or maybe reforming around while the system gets together vertically.


It's done reforming when the pressure is this low. Moving more under the convection is definitely possible though
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#657 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:46 am

PSUHiker31 wrote:
NDG wrote:The coc keeps moving NNE, current fix is near 20.9N & 85.1W
Or maybe reforming around while the system gets together vertically.


It's done reforming when the pressure is this low. Moving more under the convection is definitely possible though


Probably more like realigning itself with the mid level circulation is the only thing that I can think of.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#658 Postby Laser30033003 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:48 am

.....or it could be that its moving NNE....
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#659 Postby caneman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:49 am

That is a decent shift of 4/10th of a degree. Is that about 40 miles? Downrange that could mean 100 miles east which is within margin of error. We'll see
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#660 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:51 am

We likely won't see any further RI until Michael builds a closed eyewall. It looks like the TC is now in the restructuring phase, after the pressures fell last night. It seems the vortex tilt has decreased with the center sliding farther east, so now the TC will likely try to close off the eyewall. Once that process completes, then I think we will see a second intensification phase. It's possible recon finds hurricane-force winds in the NE quadrant of the TC during this flight though.
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