ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1201 Postby meriland29 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:02 pm

What was tge previous max fl ?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1202 Postby skufful » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:03 pm

Why are the updates at 7, 10, 1, 4, etc. instead of 8, 11, 2, 5, etc.? At least that’s what I seem to remember the times to be. Sorry in advance if this has been asked and answered.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1203 Postby chaser1 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:03 pm

NDG wrote:Let me repeat this again, 102 knot flight level winds found by recon on the NE eyewall.

https://i.imgur.com/OrIeh6U.png


And that's from a sloppy storm, against a westerly shear without a well defined eye in October. Thank heaven conditions arn't ideal.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1204 Postby pcolaman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:04 pm

Looking like a powerful storm now. Beautiful!!!
https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?p ... orbar=acht
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1205 Postby Hammy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:05 pm

skufful wrote:Why are the updates at 7, 10, 1, 4, etc. instead of 8, 11, 2, 5, etc.? At least that’s what I seem to remember the times to be. Sorry in advance if this has been asked and answered.


Central time I believe. They put something into place (I think last year) that the advisories would be listed in local time.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1206 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:05 pm

chaser1 wrote:
NDG wrote:Let me repeat this again, 102 knot flight level winds found by recon on the NE eyewall.

https://i.imgur.com/OrIeh6U.png


And that's from a sloppy storm, against a westerly shear without a well defined eye in October. Thank heaven conditions arn't ideal.


I'm not sure where this talk of this being a "sloppy" storm is coming from. Visually and structurally, this is a very impressive storm having been a hurricane for less than 24-hours.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1207 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:06 pm

skufful wrote:Why are the updates at 7, 10, 1, 4, etc. instead of 8, 11, 2, 5, etc.? At least that’s what I seem to remember the times to be. Sorry in advance if this has been asked and answered.

They are at 8 11 2 5 for eastern time so an hour before for central time
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1208 Postby ObsessedMiami » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:06 pm

So what happened to all the rain in the Miami forecast? Forecast had called for 60% rain through Thursday, now down to 30% all days. Did the intensification of Michael pull those bands back toward the core?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1209 Postby skufful » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:07 pm

Hammy wrote:
skufful wrote:Why are the updates at 7, 10, 1, 4, etc. instead of 8, 11, 2, 5, etc.? At least that’s what I seem to remember the times to be. Sorry in advance if this has been asked and answered.


Central time I believe. They put something into place (I think last year) that the advisories would be listed in local time.


Thanks, so do they switch when it changes time zones? LOL
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1210 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:07 pm

Fascinating storm. I see similarities with Opal, and it worries me more to think that Michael has more time over water due to its slower movement. Regardless of shifts, regardless of changes in intensity forecasts---this storm must be taken seriously. I'm no met, but a major hurricane is likely, which concurs with the NHC forecast. Expect the worst, hope for the best. Moreover, Michael could be stricken off the naming lists.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1211 Postby hurricaneCW » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:08 pm

He'll never be the prettiest storm but that doesn't matter, it'll still pack a wallop.

However due to slightly unfavorable upper level conditions, it's unlikely to get stronger than 120-125 mph. Still thinking it'll be 100mph at landfall.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1212 Postby gfsperpendicular » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:09 pm

skufful wrote:
Hammy wrote:
skufful wrote:Why are the updates at 7, 10, 1, 4, etc. instead of 8, 11, 2, 5, etc.? At least that’s what I seem to remember the times to be. Sorry in advance if this has been asked and answered.


Central time I believe. They put something into place (I think last year) that the advisories would be listed in local time.


Thanks, so do they switch when it changes time zones? LOL


I think it's just bc of daylight savings, the advisors are always at the same intervals in gmt :roll:
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1213 Postby SeaBrz_FL » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:11 pm

NDG wrote:The day into the night has been very tropical outside, with continuing squally wx moving through here in the Orlando area, breezy at times. There's definitely a feel to the air that there's a hurricane out there, birds were not singing today.

https://i.imgur.com/ebbBbyp.jpg


Same over here on the east coast, but i’m not sure if it’s early Mike bands or the low to our east. Pleasantly breezy though. :flag:
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1214 Postby pcolaman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:11 pm

Really wrapping up now. Looks like a doughnut . On the goes 16 you can see the black lines being wrapped around super fast !!
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1215 Postby Frank P » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:15 pm

Looks like he is definitely moving NNW now... at least on the IR loops
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1216 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:15 pm

meriland29 wrote:What was tge previous max fl ?


I'm thinking that the message was transmitted before they recorded those 100+ knot fl level winds.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1217 Postby chaser1 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:18 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
chaser1 wrote:
NDG wrote:Let me repeat this again, 102 knot flight level winds found by recon on the NE eyewall.

https://i.imgur.com/OrIeh6U.png


And that's from a sloppy storm, against a westerly shear without a well defined eye in October. Thank heaven conditions arn't ideal.


I'm not sure where this talk of this being a "sloppy" storm is coming from. Visually and structurally, this is a very impressive storm having been a hurricane for less than 24-hours.


Not meaning to hurt Michael's feelings; Perhaps he didn't hear. Unsteady eye feature, west quad restricted outflow, open eye wall. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid - he's got gutz and he's shedding millibars like no one's business. He's gonna be a contender, this one is!
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1218 Postby Hammy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:20 pm

Recon data looks like it supports at least 80kt with the 102kt flight winds and 78kt SFMR.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1219 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:21 pm

NDG wrote:Never mind, it looks like they are not going with the 102 knot flight level winds recorded, I guess it was suspicious.

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URNT12 KNHC 090152
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL142018
A. 09/00:53:50Z
B. 22.87 deg N 085.25 deg W
C. 700 mb 2867 m
D. 974 mb
E. NA
F. OPEN W
G. E36/40/30
H. 69 kt
I. 313 deg 10 nm 00:51:00Z
J. 062 deg 74 kt
K. 321 deg 19 nm 00:48:30Z
L. 72 kt
M. 133 deg 18 nm 00:59:30Z
N. 218 deg 85 kt
O. 133 deg 23 nm 01:01:00Z
P. 9 C / 3047 m
Q. 17 C / 3044 m
R. NA / NA
S. 12345 / 7
T. 0.02 / 1 nm
U. AF300 0714A MICHAEL OB 03
MAX FL WIND 85 KT 133 / 23 NM 01:01:00Z


I just noticed that the VDM is from the AF recon not the NOAA plane that found the 102 fl level winds in the NE Quadrant.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1220 Postby tolakram » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:22 pm

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