ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1341 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:13 am

More symmetrical eyewall on IR.
Hopefully, next VDM will clear the mystery.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1342 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:14 am

Spoke too soon.
Still no comment on eye characteristics.


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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1343 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:17 am

75 mm/hr rain rate!

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1344 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:19 am

Probably waiting for daylight to get eyewall characteristics.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1345 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:22 am

Drop 16.
Air nearly saturated, mid-level to surface.
So far, not entraining any dry air.


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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1346 Postby Nimbus » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:22 am

BYG Jacob wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:Dry air still along the west side:

https://i.imgur.com/P3vF3pK.jpg

Still not getting entrained in the system.


Will need an EWRC before any dry air will get into the core since the shear is relatively light.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1347 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:24 am

tolakram wrote:Probably waiting for daylight to get eyewall characteristics.


I'll really liked it when they were posting their live radar last year.
Wish they were doing it now.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1348 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:31 am

Pressure down to 968mb, expect winds to be brought up to 100 mph on the next advisory. IMO.

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URNT12 KWBC 091103
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL142018
A. 09/10:40:04Z
B. 24.43 deg N 086.07 deg W
C. NA
D. 968 mb
E. 095 deg 04 kt
F. NA
G. NA
H. 90 kt
I. 068 deg 14 nm 10:36:31Z
J. 160 deg 100 kt
K. 074 deg 19 nm 10:35:27Z
L. 56 kt
M. 268 deg 22 nm 10:45:20Z
N. 011 deg 78 kt
O. 267 deg 17 nm 10:44:05Z
P. 14 C / 2468 m
Q. 19 C / 2458 m
R. 15 C / NA
S. 12345 / NA
T. 0.01 / 1 nm
U. NOAA2 0914A MICHAEL OB 18
STRONG SPIRAL BANDING FROM SE TO NW
MAX FL WIND 100 KT 074 / 19 NM 10:35:27Z
MAX FL TEMP 23 C 267 / 16 NM FROM FL CNTR
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1349 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:33 am

GCANE wrote:Drop 16.
Air nearly saturated, mid-level to surface.
So far, not entraining any dry air.


http://i67.tinypic.com/vfxeo8.png

http://i67.tinypic.com/30uwi9t.png


Most important, there's no westerly mid level shear, the biggest killer of tropical systems.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1350 Postby pcolaman » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:37 am

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1351 Postby NotoSans » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:40 am

VDM may possibly be wrong regarding the eye character since the latest microwave pass shows a well-defined, almost closed eyewall.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1352 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:49 am

8am: 100mph
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1353 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:50 am

pressure dropping, AF not to the center and reporting 965.9
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1354 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:50 am

SUMMARY OF 700 AM CDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...24.5N 86.1W
ABOUT 395 MI...635 KM S OF PANAMA CITY FLORIDA
ABOUT 365 MI...590 KM S OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...100 MPH...155 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 345 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...968 MB...28.58 INCHES
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1355 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:52 am

I think these windshear maps are wrong, there's no way Michael would have had this good satellite presentation if windshear would have been this bad of 25-30 knots over its coc, especially the mid level shear that it shows.

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1356 Postby weathermimmi » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:53 am

two questions it looks to be going a tad more west than nnw do you think from the radar posts here???? and how large from end to end did they say it was?
My daughters is supposed to get married on the Gulf Saturday in Fort Walton Beach :?:
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1357 Postby DestinHurricane » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:55 am

weathermimmi wrote:two questions it looks to be going a tad more west than nnw do you think from the radar posts here???? and how large from end to end did they say it was?
My daughters is supposed to get married on the Gulf Saturday in Fort Walton Beach :?:

It will be gone saturday
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1358 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:56 am

NDG wrote:I think these windshear maps are wrong, there's no way Michael would have had this good satellite presentation if windshear would have been this bad of 25-30 knots over its coc, especially the mid level shear that it shows.

https://i.imgur.com/hpxt1PM.gif
https://i.imgur.com/fJFx1cA.gif
https://i.imgur.com/W6V081l.jpg



I agree. The nhc mentioned that last night as well.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1359 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:58 am

weathermimmi wrote:two questions it looks to be going a tad more west than nnw do you think from the radar posts here???? and how large from end to end did they say it was?
My daughters is supposed to get married on the Gulf Saturday in Fort Walton Beach :?:



Ts winds extend 195mi from the center
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1360 Postby pcolaman » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:59 am

eastcoastFL wrote:
NDG wrote:I think these windshear maps are wrong, there's no way Michael would have had this good satellite presentation if windshear would have been this bad of 25-30 knots over its coc, especially the mid level shear that it shows.

https://i.imgur.com/hpxt1PM.gif
https://i.imgur.com/fJFx1cA.gif
https://i.imgur.com/W6V081l.jpg



I agree. The nhc mentioned that last night as well.



Looks to me that the hurricane is expanding more to the west against the dryer air? How?
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