ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3781 Postby terstorm1012 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:11 pm

shiny-pebble wrote:How did Michael attain such a low pressure but not reach Cat 5? It wasn't too large either

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Winds sometimes lag behind pressure and since the lowest pressure occurred right at landfall, officially (for now) landfall intensity is 155mph.

I say for now because some evidence does exist for 135+kt surface winds, and we'll see in the post-analysis report. 2mph doesn't make a difference though, in terms of the catastrophic impact occurring right now.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3782 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:11 pm

shiny-pebble wrote:How did Michael attain such a low pressure but not reach Cat 5? It wasn't too large either

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Could be upgraded to CAT5 in post-season. 5kt is not much of a difference anyway
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3783 Postby Kazmit » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:11 pm

shiny-pebble wrote:How did Michael attain such a low pressure but not reach Cat 5? It wasn't too large either

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I think it did reach cat 5 briefly, there's some evidence to support it. We'll have to see in post season analysis.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3784 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:12 pm

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3785 Postby NWFL56 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:12 pm

Steve wrote:
HurricaneBrain wrote:
NDG wrote:His car got carried away or being moved around by the surge now!!!!!!

Link?


Brain,

The link has been posted like 15 times in the last few pages. It's nothing but the car bobbing. Bout to crash into another house.
https://livestormchasing.com/stream/brett.adair


The link isn't working for a lot of us. No idea why.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3786 Postby rhwxgeek » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:13 pm

Tornado Warning as far south as Sarasota/Bradenton area

Tornado Warning
Tornado Warning
FLC081-115-101915-
/O.NEW.KTBW.TO.W.0007.181010T1857Z-181010T1915Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
Tornado Warning
National Weather Service Tampa Bay Area Ruskin FL
257 PM EDT WED OCT 10 2018

The National Weather Service in Ruskin has issued a

* Tornado Warning for...
Central Manatee County in west central Florida...
Northern Sarasota County in west central Florida...

* Until 315 PM EDT.

* At 256 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado
was located over Sarasota Bradenton Airport, or near Sarasota,
moving northeast at 35 mph.

HAZARD...Tornado.

SOURCE...Radar indicated rotation.

IMPACT...Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without
shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed.
Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree
damage is likely.

* This dangerous storm will be near...
The Meadows around 300 PM EDT.
Lakewood Ranch around 305 PM EDT.

Other locations impacted by this tornadic thunderstorm include Desoto
Lakes.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW! Move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a
sturdy building. Avoid windows. If you are outdoors, in a mobile
home, or in a vehicle, move to the closest substantial shelter and
protect yourself from flying debris.

&&

LAT...LON 2733 8255 2737 8260 2750 8248 2743 8237
TIME...MOT...LOC 1856Z 220DEG 30KT 2738 8254

TORNADO...RADAR INDICATED
HAIL...0.00IN

$$

TBW
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3787 Postby WxGuy1 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:15 pm

KC7NEC wrote:The two "good" things about this storm is its moving through very quickly and its daytime. Likely it will be safe enough and still light that rescues can begin in a few hours.

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If there's any less-than-really-terrible news, it's that Michael has taken one of the "best" paths for minimizing the population in the right hemisphere of the eyewall (where the winds are almost always the strongest). You can pull up Google Earth or look at the satellite data in Google Maps and see that the area east of Panama City is mostly rural with extremely low population density (<10 people per sq. mile in areas). Of course, for those in the way, it doesn't really "help" at all, but, from a human impact perspective, this is a heck of a lot better of an outcome than if the hurricane made landfall 20-30 miles farther west, putting the much-more-populated Panama City area in the right eyewall with onshore winds.
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With a ~15 mph motion to the NE, a symmetric wind field would result in winds on the west side of the storm being ~30 mph weaker than on the east side. So, 150-155 mph max near Mexico Beach but ~120-125 mph max near Panama City. Add in the fact that the west side, in this case, had offshore flow (which is almost always meaningfully weaker than onshore flow -- it's way the strongest winds are almost always limited to areas right near the coast), and Panama City dodged a catastrophic bullet. That's of little consolation to those who will come back out to damaged or destroyed houses, but at least there are far fewer of those people than there would have been otherwise.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3788 Postby rhwxgeek » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:16 pm

Starting to see some damage out of Panama City. Brick structures with significant damage...

 https://twitter.com/StormVisuals/status/1050101176681881600


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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3789 Postby dhweather » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:16 pm

Adair's car was submerged by the storm surge. He and his friend left the vehicle seeking higher ground as the storm surge rolled in, and left the video running. It kept working until the electronics got wet, then the stream died.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3790 Postby Mouton » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:17 pm

We just got a warning up in Nassau County.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3791 Postby La Sirena » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:18 pm

NativeFloridaGirl wrote:
La Sirena wrote:
meriland29 wrote:i don't see any signs of it weakening....at all...since inland. Can someone verify that? are cities 30 miles inland going to get pretty much cat 5 weather just like the coast?

I would like to know lol. We’re 86 miles N of PCB roughly. We have a huge branch that came through our pool cage at 10 am CST. Lost internet and cable at noon. We know it’s gojng to get a lot worse later for us. Looking at some pretty crazy winds.


And everyone is talking about how it’s going to turn Northeast. When? I’m also in Dothan and huge branches are already crashing all around my house. My internet also went out around noon and now the power is blinking. I’m concerned that Michael isn’t playing by the rules.

No kidding he’s not even delivered his worst yet to is in Dothan. Hang tight y’all.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3792 Postby rhwxgeek » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:20 pm

Tornado warnings spreading into South Central GA already, tornado warning for Perry, GA area. For perspective that is about 30 miles south of Macon.

Also this video out of Mexico Beach from Ginger Zee of ABC.

 https://twitter.com/Ginger_Zee/status/1050101892167151616


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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3793 Postby birdwomn » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:22 pm

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3794 Postby storminabox » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:23 pm

So much for a dead hurricane season. Truly a mesmerizing storm!
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3795 Postby taveanator » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:24 pm

Here's the cached video:

https://www.facebook.com/foxsanantonio/ ... 649794753/
&
https://www.facebook.com/foxsanantonio/ ... 334103158/

and here's where they ended up:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.919818, ... 312!8i6656

Looks like a fairly modern house, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3796 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:24 pm

This is the crew that flew the last mission. Kudos to all from Air Force and NOAA that made an amazing work collecting the data.

 https://twitter.com/JeremyDeHart53d/status/1050103589048344576


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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3797 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:25 pm

Prayers to all those affect by Michael. What a season it has been...
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3798 Postby Smith,J » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:26 pm

Buck wrote:Eager to see photos and hear reports of Cape San Blas, Port St. Joe, Indian Pass, etc. Places very near and dear to my heart.


I wonder if Indian Pass Raw Bar is gone????
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3799 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:27 pm

Looks like Georgia will be getting its strongest Hurricane since 1898. Perhaps the strongest in recorded history depending on how well Michael continues to hold together. Didn't come from the Atlantic side either but the Gulf side. Crazy stuff.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#3800 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:30 pm

Jim Williams starting to drive around:
https://www.pscp.tv/HurricaneCity/
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