2018 Cyclones Retirement
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
what about something old-timey, just like the rest of list 4, like...
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
Things escalated so quickly I didn't have time to pull out the Burn Notice memes, but looks like Agent Mikey is going undercover and won't be seen again.
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
Florence—> Francine, Faith, Flavia, Fleur
Michael—> Mark, Manny, Moe, Mateo, Milo, Marv
Michael—> Mark, Manny, Moe, Mateo, Milo, Marv
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Here's what I have in mind. I've denoted names that are similar to current names; there are occassions that retired names are replaced by names that are similar to other extant names.
Freya, Freda/Frieda (similar to Fred), Farah, Fern (could be too similar to Fernanda), Felice/Feliz (variants of Felicia but similar to Felix), Faith (?, it was just replaced---no significant impacts in 1966), Francelia, Francine, Fatima, or their variants
EquusStorm wrote:I like Felice. I just realized the Epac has Norma and Norman on the list so storms with similar names are apparently not off limits at all; having Dora and others, Atlantic retirement isn't even a limiting factor I guess. Francelia, Faith, Freda, Flavia. Or do the Frederic-to-eventually-Fred thing and replace it with Fiorenza
Cleveland Kent Evans wrote:Faith is definitely the most common "F" name in the US which hasn't been retired and is not on another list already. Fallon, Fawn, Fern, Flavia, Fonda. Francine, or Frieda/Frida would also be good choices.
Torino wrote:Frida/Freda/Frieda, Felicity, Felice, Farrah, Faith, Fern, Fleur, Flavia, Fanny, Franny, Faustine, Francine, Fina.
I think "Felicity" is the top choice.
Torino wrote:Florence is out for sure now, so my three options to replace it are "Felicity", "Faith" and "Francine".
HurricaneRyan wrote:Faith and Malcolm would be my top choices.
BadLarry95 wrote:Florence—> Francine, Faith, Flavia, Fleur
Michael—> Mark, Manny, Moe, Mateo, Milo, Marv
Even though the name Faith was used once in 1966 and never retired, I doubt you'll see it again. In other words, I think you will see... *drum roll*
Faith No More! (sorry, I had to do that - they've been one of favorite bands for the past 3 decades)
The storm holds two historic basin records: Longest track (second longest of all worldwide TC basins behind Hurricane/Typhoon John of 1994), and northernmost latitude for any Atlantic tropical cyclone. While, obviously, those aren't criteria for retirement, I think those two records could dissuade whichever WMO member that decides (was Florence a USA name?) from putting the name on the permanent Atlantic list. We'll see...
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I'm now leaning towards Freya, Feliz/Felice for Florence and Mason, Miles for Michael
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
AJC3 wrote:xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Here's what I have in mind. I've denoted names that are similar to current names; there are occassions that retired names are replaced by names that are similar to other extant names.
Freya, Freda/Frieda (similar to Fred), Farah, Fern (could be too similar to Fernanda), Felice/Feliz (variants of Felicia but similar to Felix), Faith (?, it was just replaced---no significant impacts in 1966), Francelia, Francine, Fatima, or their variantsEquusStorm wrote:I like Felice. I just realized the Epac has Norma and Norman on the list so storms with similar names are apparently not off limits at all; having Dora and others, Atlantic retirement isn't even a limiting factor I guess. Francelia, Faith, Freda, Flavia. Or do the Frederic-to-eventually-Fred thing and replace it with FiorenzaCleveland Kent Evans wrote:Faith is definitely the most common "F" name in the US which hasn't been retired and is not on another list already. Fallon, Fawn, Fern, Flavia, Fonda. Francine, or Frieda/Frida would also be good choices.Torino wrote:Frida/Freda/Frieda, Felicity, Felice, Farrah, Faith, Fern, Fleur, Flavia, Fanny, Franny, Faustine, Francine, Fina.
I think "Felicity" is the top choice.Torino wrote:Florence is out for sure now, so my three options to replace it are "Felicity", "Faith" and "Francine".HurricaneRyan wrote:Faith and Malcolm would be my top choices.BadLarry95 wrote:Florence—> Francine, Faith, Flavia, Fleur
Michael—> Mark, Manny, Moe, Mateo, Milo, Marv
Even though the name Faith was used once in 1966 and never retired, I doubt you'll see it again. In other words, I think you will see... *drum roll*
Faith No More! (sorry, I had to do that - they've been one of favorite bands for the past 3 decades)
The storm holds two historic basin records: Longest track (second longest of all worldwide TC basins behind Hurricane/Typhoon John of 1994), and northernmost latitude for any Atlantic tropical cyclone. While, obviously, those aren't criteria for retirement, I think those two records could dissuade whichever WMO member that decides (was Florence a USA name?) from putting the name on the permanent Atlantic list. We'll see...
Faith could very well be a possibility, especially since it’s no longer going to be the northernmost tropical cyclone on record. They brought back names from the all-female lists before. And I don’t think it matters if Florence was originally suggested by the US or not. The Germanic Ingrid was replaced with the Hispanic Imelda.
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:I'm now leaning towards Freya, Feliz/Felice for Florence and Mason, Miles for Michael
I don’t think they’re going to go with Miles. Remember that Gail was replaced with Gilda for 1954 because of the word “gale” having meteorological connotations. I think Miles would meet that same fate. Anyway my top pick for Florence is Felice because after 1964, Florence was originally going to be replaced with Felice for 1968 before it got switched to Frances. And Manfred is my pick for Michael because Typhoon Mike was retired in 1990 and replaced with Manny, And Mike and Manny are nicknames for Michael and Manfred.
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GSBHurricane wrote:xtyphooncyclonex wrote:I'm now leaning towards Freya, Feliz/Felice for Florence and Mason, Miles for Michael
I don’t think they’re going to go with Miles. Remember that Gail was replaced with Gilda for 1954 because of the word “gale” having meteorological connotations. I think Miles would meet that same fate. Anyway my top pick for Florence is Felice because after 1964, Florence was originally going to be replaced with Felice for 1968 before it got switched to Frances. And Manfred is my pick for Michael because Typhoon Mike was retired in 1990 and replaced with Manny, And Mike and Manny are nicknames for Michael and Manfred.
Speaking of Mike.... Mike struck my city sometime in November 1990 pretty badly and left us without potable water or electricity for months. Worst typhoon in recent memory for the residents here. Mike should not be reused. Manny may be a nickname for Manfred, but more commonly associated with Manuel/Emmanuel.
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
For Michael’s replacement I suggest...Milo.
Hurricane Milo just sounds menacing to me.
Hurricane Milo just sounds menacing to me.
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Is Milton or Maddox or Marlon a good replacement for Michael?
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Among those mentioned, Flavia and Malcolm are my favorites.
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
Could we still get another retired name out of the season? Maybe Oscar will be a REAL grouch...
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
Storm by storm (through October 21), here is what I think:
Tropical Storm Alberto
Case FOR retirement: Did some damage, especially inland from an early storm
Case AGAINST retirement: Overall impacts relatively modest
My probability of retirement: 5%
Verdict:
Hurricane Beryl
Case FOR retirement: Not much of any
Case AGAINST retirement: Dissipated before hitting land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Hurricane Chris
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Debby
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Ernesto
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land as a standalone system
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Major Hurricane Florence
Case FOR retirement: Catastrophic flooding; significant loss of life and extreme damage
Case AGAINST retirement: Relatively low intensity at landfall, but that is a minimal factor
My probability of retirement: 98%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Gordon
Case FOR retirement: Hit land as a strong tropical storm with some damage
Case AGAINST retirement: Overall impacts minimal
My probability of retirement: 3%
Verdict:
Hurricane Helene
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Hurricane Isaac
Case FOR retirement: Not much of any
Case AGAINST retirement: Minimal impact on land
My probability of retirement: 2%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Joyce
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Kirk
Case FOR retirement: Not much of any
Case AGAINST retirement: Dissipated before hitting land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Hurricane Leslie
Case FOR retirement: Did notable damage at the end of its life
Case AGAINST retirement: No direct impacts to RA IV members
My probability of retirement: 2%
Verdict:
Major Hurricane Michael
Case FOR retirement: Exceptional damage from all sources, fairly high death toll, extreme landfall intensity
Case AGAINST retirement: Not much of any
My probability of retirement: 100%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Nadine
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Alberto
Case FOR retirement: Did some damage, especially inland from an early storm
Case AGAINST retirement: Overall impacts relatively modest
My probability of retirement: 5%
Verdict:
Hurricane Beryl
Case FOR retirement: Not much of any
Case AGAINST retirement: Dissipated before hitting land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Hurricane Chris
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Debby
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Ernesto
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land as a standalone system
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Major Hurricane Florence
Case FOR retirement: Catastrophic flooding; significant loss of life and extreme damage
Case AGAINST retirement: Relatively low intensity at landfall, but that is a minimal factor
My probability of retirement: 98%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Gordon
Case FOR retirement: Hit land as a strong tropical storm with some damage
Case AGAINST retirement: Overall impacts minimal
My probability of retirement: 3%
Verdict:
Hurricane Helene
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Hurricane Isaac
Case FOR retirement: Not much of any
Case AGAINST retirement: Minimal impact on land
My probability of retirement: 2%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Joyce
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Kirk
Case FOR retirement: Not much of any
Case AGAINST retirement: Dissipated before hitting land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
Hurricane Leslie
Case FOR retirement: Did notable damage at the end of its life
Case AGAINST retirement: No direct impacts to RA IV members
My probability of retirement: 2%
Verdict:
Major Hurricane Michael
Case FOR retirement: Exceptional damage from all sources, fairly high death toll, extreme landfall intensity
Case AGAINST retirement: Not much of any
My probability of retirement: 100%
Verdict:
Tropical Storm Nadine
Case FOR retirement: Not at all
Case AGAINST retirement: Never impacted land
My probability of retirement: 0%
Verdict:
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
CrazyC83 wrote:Could we still get another retired name out of the season? Maybe Oscar will be a REAL grouch...
Retired names of storms formed after Oct. 12th:
Hattie (Belize)
Mitch (Honduras, Nicaragua)
Lenny (Virgin Is., St. Martin)
Michelle (Cuba, Bahamas)
Wilma (Mexico, Cuba, USA)
Noel (Hispaniola, Cuba, Bahamas)
Paloma (Cayman Is., Cuba)
Tomas (St. Lucia, Curaçao, Haiti, Cuba)
Sandy (Jamaica, Cuba, Bahamas, USA)
Otto (Costa Rica, Nicaragua)
So yes, the season isn't over yet, especially for the Caribbean and Central America.
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
I have a feeling Michael's death toll isn't done climbing, unfortunately. However, it doesn't seem to be as bad as it could have been for a storm of that intensity. I think a combination of a tight core with a small RMW and lack of surge inundation into populated areas outside of Mexico Beach and the St. Joseph Peninsula are to thank for that.
I still think there are probably some areas they haven't been able to get to on the ground yet, and those are probably the heaviest damaged ones.
I still think there are probably some areas they haven't been able to get to on the ground yet, and those are probably the heaviest damaged ones.
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
bamajammer4eva wrote:How bout Fanny and Mikhail
Mikhail is the Russian variant of Michael, so I don't think that would work.
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Re: 2018 Cyclones Retirement
Depending on how far down we go, I’d suggest the following replacements for future storms
Oscar— Oliver, Ozzie
Patty— Paige, Pam
Rafael— Roger, Rob
Sara— Sofia, Susana
Tony— Tyler, Troy
Valerie— Vanessa, Victoria
William— Wayne, Wally
Oscar— Oliver, Ozzie
Patty— Paige, Pam
Rafael— Roger, Rob
Sara— Sofia, Susana
Tony— Tyler, Troy
Valerie— Vanessa, Victoria
William— Wayne, Wally
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